Marvis Frazier?

Marvis was a real good fighter, but seemed to fragile for the likes of Holmes and Tyson. He was legit with some good wins against big guys. Losing to Holmes and Tyson doesn't mean you're not a good fighter, he's a real good guy too!

 

Marvis was a good fighter but he seemed to lack a truly big punch and the chin to match it. He could out hustle a big slow heavyweight but was in deep water against a really good heavy like Holmes or Tyson. Plus he tried to adopt his father's fighting style and it just didn't suit him. There's only one Joe Frazier. Marvis should've stayed the boxer he was instead of trying to become another Joe Frazier.

 

Marvis frazier was a good heavyweight. He lost to the best two heavyweights of the 1980s .......so what?

 

Unfortunately, what I have seen about Marvis are the brutal KOs he received.

What did Joe see or not see in Tyson that made him put Marvis up against him? A prior post mentioned those being a pragmatic decision for his financial future, but did he feel he had a shot? I guess I look at that as a fight Marvis never wins -- someone Tyson seemed a lot bigger than, can't imagine Marvis packs the punch to slow or hurt Tyson, etc. What was the strategy coming in?

I don't want to downplay Marvis' skills -- he had beaten Tillis, Ribalta, and Bonecrusher going into the Tyson fight -- but watching that 30 second destruction, I have trouble seeing it go any other way (maybe the size being the biggest factor working against him).

 

It makes me happy to see a decent, respectful discussion of Marvis Frazier. I am a big fan of his and I am of the opinion that he was a very good boxer who could have found a pathway to a world championship (in one weight class or another) if fate had favored him just a bit differently. For sure there was no "nicer" man ever who contended for a championship. Many of your comments made me realize how little is known about this man and his interesting life - details that help explain how and why his course in life went the way that it did. I am likewise happy that the book about his life which goes a long way to provide these details is due out real soon. Just searching the web for meetmarvisfrazier or meetmarvisfrazier/facebook will give you more information about the book and how to order it once it is available. I don't think you will be disappointed. Thank you, jpowerspotter

 

In the end, Marvis was good, but small, sharp, but not blazingly fast, and lacked a top-level punch.

He was never going to survive against a legend. He beat some VERY good heavyweights, and was a good heavyweight himself, but he had none of the ingredients to survive Tyson, and he wasn't as good a fighter coming out as Spinks, and thus didn't have the tools to defeat an aging champion(Holmes had more left than Ali, but the parallel exists.).

 

Marvis was not bad. He was rushed a few times because of his name. The Holmes fight was the most embarassing. Tyson? Well that happened with Mike. His best with was Bonecrusher.

 

He was a good heavyweight with a good workrate, it's a shame he's remembered mainly for the Holmes and Tyson blowouts. Did anyone ever see the interview on YT when he was talking about the Holmes fight and his dad? I found it really moving, he got quite upset talking about it. I don't think it's still up, it's a few years since I saw it.

 

I remember reading Tyson joked after the fight that he thought the old man was ready to rumble during the instructions.

 

m8s ,
i find , it- very hard 2 Believe Tht Frazier waz ,
ev3r Ch@mp10nsh1p , m@teri@1. Tht is just how it ,
be sumtimez .

U Best Believe tht Marvis was a vry talented n gr8 hvyw8 , m8s. Marvis did beat , var1oUs - contendars ,
De Powerful Punch3r Boner Smith , De Skilled Cassius Clay-Clone ,
Known As James CowBoy Tillis ,
Or De durable Joey Bugger Bugner .
Marvis did , infact beat all of deese gr8 f8ghters , reg@rdl3ss of the various opinions ,
he only lost , to de absolute best of the division .

 

Are you any relation to Frankenfrank?

 

No ,
m8 .

 

Tyson has some great stories. Such a smart sharp person. Has he written a book?

 

Nothing wrong with marvis frazier and unfair,though inevitable, he gets compared to his dad. How many fighters, bar 1 or 2 dozen tops, was as good as Frazier?

Beat Bones the same year he won the heavyweight title off Witherspoon, so that surely must count for something.

No shame losing to Holmes and Tyson either

Tough crowd

 

I could n't understand Papa Joe's logic in throwing Marvis in with Larry Holmes after having so few fights.