Masashi Kudo vs. Ayub Kalue

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    I'll look into the Kalule-Holmes bout,,,,,,,,,

    It was on the undercard of the Steffan Tangstadt-Lucien Rodriguez bout.

    Ayub Kalule could have had a Championship bout versus WBA Light-Middleweight
    Eddie Gazo in December 1977,,,,,,the only thing Mogen Palle would have had to do was,
    pay-off the WBA officials, overpay Eddie Gazo's fight purse, and give Gazo a guarantee
    re-match clause if he lost.

    The South Korean representatives for Light-Middleweight Jae-Keum Lim did just that.
    Unfortunately, Jae-Keum Lim did not win.
     
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    Kalule was 100% a big junior middle, either that or he was terrible at even cutting a few lbs.

    What's that quote lora? 'cut off a leg' for him to make the weight? Kalule was a natural middle for sure.
     
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  3. Flea Man

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    As for his power, how are we assessing the flash knockdown he scored over Sumbu late in the fight? Balance? Just one of those things? He still had a bit of snap even past his best.

    Kalule was accurate enough to gain some respect IMO.

    In other era's, it seems Tyson Fury has gone the Kalule route now.
     
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    Flea man,,,,,,,

    Ayub looked smaller than Masashi Kudo,,,,,,,both in height and upper-body mass

    5' 8" 154 lbs.
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  5. Flea Man

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    As I say, if he was constantly struggling to make the weight!

    As for Kudo, coming from a wrestling background he most probably had weight cutting down to a tee.
     
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    If making weight (154 lbs.) was a strain,,,,,,,,,,,,he should have been affected late in fights,,,,,,,,,,,,weakness.

    Just the opposite, Ayub was 'Steady Eddie' down the stretch.
     
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    He was a tank physically.Looks like freakin dick tiger in that first photo.The second with Graham, another former junior middle who grew into being a big physically strong middleweight.

    Kudo did look like a fighter who would have no issue against middleweights physically himself.
     
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    Saad was also strong down the stretch but tight at the weight. Maybe it doesn't always follow the pattern we'd expect??
     
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  9. Senor Pepe'

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    Ayub Kalule,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe a bit like Emile Griffith, a 147 lb. boxer who could carry weight well at 155 lbs. and more.

    Also, Ayub Kalule was boxing at -60 kg (132 lbs.) in 1974 and 1975.

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    Scoring of the Fight.

    Referee Robert Ferrara and Ring Magazine were right on,,,,,,,,,
    11-1-3 for Ayub Kalule.

    Have to take your hat off to Masashi Kudo, as he took some wicked shots, and
    did not quit.

    At least 5 rounds were close, but Kalule landed the cleaner and higher-volume punches
    in those rounds.

    Not sure what Judge Tim Kelleher was thinking, with 9 Rounds 'Even', with a 5-1-9 Scorecard.

    Harold Ledderman, usually does not like to score 'Even' Rounds, so at least '3' of the
    close Rounds he scored for Masahi Kudo, on his 11-4-0 Scorecard.

    Worse case scenario, the fight could have been scored 9-3-3 for Ayub Kalule.
     
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