Mass Hypnosis at Wilder-Ortiz - Who Remember Wilder Going Down in the 7th?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I saw a couple people on Twitter and on this message board last night say "Ortiz had Wilder down" or "Wilder got off the floor" ... and I corrected them.

    And I was on Youtube today and I saw Chris Arreola being interviewed after the fight and he said something to the effect that "I didn't think Ortiz would knock Wilder down. But we got to give Wilder a lot of credit. He got up and survived that round." (Go to around the 50 second mark)

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    I heard an interview with Eddie Hearn this morning where he says Ortiz "Obviously knocked down Wilder midway through the fight." (He says it around the 1:40 mark)

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    Deontay Wilder didn't go down in the seventh round or any round last night.

    Ortiz was on the floor a lot. He went down in the second, ruled a slip. He was floored three times. He was also pushed down once before the final two knockdowns in the 10th.

    But Deontay Wilder never took a knee, was never knocked down and never had to get off the floor. There was no standing eight. His knee didn't graze the floor. His butt didn't hit the floor.

    His body never came close to going down.

    I think a lot of people EXPECTED him to go down, or were HOPING he'd go down ... but he just got rocked.

    I just found that really peculiar.

    To set the record straight, though, Deontay Wilder never went down in round seven. (Or any round.)

    It never happened, even if some people's brains thought it did.
     
  2. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    Some serious Mandela effect going on. Not the first time with Ortiz since some people are really convinced he fought Pernell Whitaker in 1984.
     
  3. Drederick Tatum

    Drederick Tatum Active Member Full Member

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    You're right. He was out on his feet though and it was definitely a 10-8 round for Ortiz on my scorecard.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Was he out on his feet? He looked like he was reeling in there. But the moment the bell rang, Wilder walked back to his corner and sat down.

    He didn't stagger back to his corner at the end of the round. Nobody ran over and helped him back to his corner. He just walked over and sat down.

    Later he said he wasn't hurt so much as Ortiz's punches were knocking him off balance every time they landed at the end of that round, which sounds like an excuse, but the moment Ortiz stopped punching, Wilder stopped reeling and just walked back to his corner.

    I don't think he was any more hurt than Ortiz was after the first knockdown in round five and he walked back to his corner.

    And Wilder was outweighed and he has thin legs. Is it inconceivable that Ortiz's blows were shoving him back and forth off balance, like he claimed?

    People WANTED Wilder to be out on his feet. They wanted him to go down.

    But the film of him walking back to his corner doesn't support that he was "out on his feet."
     
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  5. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah a few in the RBR had round 7, 10-8 Ortiz:watchout:
     
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  6. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder did have the all seeing eye on the sleeve of his weird space suit.

    My Theory:
    Haymon paid off CERN, even if Ortiz KO'd Wilder 10 X's the quantum CPU & hadron particle collider just rewinded the fight on us.
     
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  7. navigator

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    Only thing that registered on me was that Wilder could've caught a useful breather by taking a knee or going down voluntarily (as AJ seemed to do after that Wlad right hand), but his pride wouldn't let him.

    I think he was pretty darn hurt. He was vulnerable well into the next session.
     
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  8. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If a lot of people saw it then there’s definitely Mandela effect going on, very interesting.
     
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  9. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    judges had it 10-8 for ortiz in the 7th as well
     
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  10. kirk

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    Interesting.
     
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  11. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    most likely thing is a muti-verse situation going into effect and the beginning of the 8th round with them buying time had something to do with it.
     
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  12. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    it was a good 40 seconds there at the end of an otherwise swingable Rd.

    A 10/8 is fine but not a certainty for any judge.
    Saw several 10/10 scores as well.
    The historical rule of thumb has been to ALWAYS give the CHAMPION the narrow rds.
    The CHALLENGER MUST TAKE THE TITLE FROM THE CHAMP.

    In this day of bribery, nutthuggery, buggery, and hate, the A side FIGHTER, not the CHAMP gets anything he's not KTFO in.
    Lucky for Wilder the judges scores reflected the historical rule of thumb.
     
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  13. Heavyrighthand

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    I think they are implying that it was “virtually” a knock down, because he seemed to be so hurt and —-barely—- made it to the bell
     
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  14. PolicemanPrawn

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    Good observations. People's views of Wilder are causing them serious psychological issues - false memories, cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, etc. I bet some of them have PTSD after last night.
     
  15. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no theres a difference between getting hurt and hitting the floor and getting the count.
     
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