Masterful HOPKINS stuns PAVLIK - Poll results & photos & post-fight video

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  1. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    The cream of wheat man won't get knocked out but he won't do much of anything else.

    Expect him to have moments here or there but the consistent pressure of Pavlik will be too much to compete against. Easy UD for the younger fighter.
     
  2. JabCross727

    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with this. Pavlik wins by UD and maybe late KO if he dishes enough punishment. Next up for Pavlik would be Calzaghe or Abraham.
     
  3. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavliks strength and punching power and youth are in real terms. Those same attributes that were once BHops are now a thing of the past. The old lion scraped by Calzaghe who is not a force. Pavlik is a physical force and the old lion is going to learn the final chapter of the warrior code.
     
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe maybe isn't a huge physical force, but he can do more than one thing and adapt to many situations. That's why Hopkins was less and less effective with his great counters as the fight went on, and Calzaghe has a suberb, stunning stamina to keep everything up. Pavik really is a force working behind his jab but Hopkins is not a wall to break throuh, he's a smart old fox, moves very well so very hard to hit, and you really have to give him angles because he takes away the jab excellently.

    Even in his very impressive win over Taylor Pavlik took more than 60% of Jermain's power punches and at 185lbs (fight night) Hopkins will land really huge bombs. Whether Pavlik will have a plan B if his usual gameplan (the jab setting everythin up) won't work is the big question for me. Taylor barely beat Hopkins, both fights could've gone in Hops way and two slick boxers gave Bernard legitimate defeats in Jones and Calzaghe. Tito or Tarver never came close beating him, they were too predictable and never had a plan B. Pavlik better have one...
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Back to the trainer question: as Roach won't train Hopkins for this one, whom should Bernard pick for the rematch?

    Hopkins doesn't really need a good teacher to tell him how to box, but a good strategist is very important in this fight. While Manny Steward never worked together well with Taylor, he still had a few game plans coming into the Pavlik fight and maybe Hopkins can take his advice. Also the Mayweathers are pretty damn good in game plans, maybe Floyd Sr. should train Bernard.

    Or should he just team up with the rest of the Execution Squad: Nazim Richardson, John David Jackson and Mackie Shilstone?
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I said this on another thread, but I'll say it again here. Hopkins has placed himself in a very dangerous situation by taking this fight. Does anyone really believe that Pavlik will come into this thinking that an ugly and boring split decision win is good enough?

    In the only Pavlik quote I've read Kelly said BHop "is gonna get banged up a little." Considering how respectful KP is toward his opponents, that's the equivalent of a lot of fighters saying Hopkins is a dead man walking.

    Pavlik will come in well trained, well prepared, and in fantastic condition as always. He will also come in with the utter destruction of Bernard Hopkins on his mind.

    And for those who say Pavlik is to limited to handle Hopkins; the kid went 89-8 as an amatuer. He's fought up and down the scale, from 147-170, and he's 34-0 as a professional. He also has a 90% KO ratio against a variety of styles, including several guys who had never been stopped before. This urban myth about Pavlik plodding forward behind a simple 1-2 is just that; an urban myth. Three of Pavlik's last six opponents got knocked the **** out because of mistakes they made, or flaws in their fighting style, not because Kelly overwhelmed them with workrate and power.
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The official announcement is coming up shortly. There's gonna be a press conference in NY in a few hours. Honestly, I've never expected Team Pavlik to take the Hopkins risk, I'm giving him big credit for them for this one! Also big credit for Hopkins, but I feel he's the one in the win-win situation now. Who can blame him for losing close to 44? But winning would be the perfect ending for his career, especially from the underdog position...
     
  8. Maza1987

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  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Press release makes this fight OFFICIALLY ON!


    Fighters' quote:


    Kelly Pavlik:
    "I am preparing to fight a legend and take him down in his own backyard. Even though I am younger, I know Hopkins is a slick veteran with a bunch of boxing tricks in his bag. I refuse to underestimate him and I know on October 18, he will be ready to fight. I am treating this as if it were a championship match with my plan being to remain undefeated and show the world that I am able to take on any fighter regardless of age, weight or record."

    Bernard Hopkins:
    "Kelly Pavlik has a heart of a lion but he has no idea what he is in for on October 18. Pavlik might be the latest thing on a fast track to fame, but I am a sure thing and will take this kid to school that night and teach him a lesson he will never forget."

    Bob Arum, TR:
    "There is no doubt that Bernard Hopkins is a great fighter and was virtually unstoppable in his prime, but Kelly Pavlik is recognizably one of the best fighters in boxing today and he will continue to prove his himself against a legendary fighter like Bernard. This is a tremendous challenge for Kelly on October 18."

    Oscar De La Hoya, GBP:
    "The match-up between Kelly Pavlik and Bernard Hopkins will be one for the record books. Hopkins has the experience and Pavlik has the desire to prove himself. I am looking forward to seeing Pavlik defend his undefeated record but I know Bernard can rise to the occasion and take down one of boxing’s brightest stars."
     
  10. booradley

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    Thanks for posting that.
     
  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice! Pavlik is a big dude and will be big even at 170!

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  12. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Hopkins looks so ****ing old
     
  13. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Yea no kidding. When I glanced at it I thought it was Bill Cosby.

    By the way, that avatar is ****ing gross.
     
  14. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    :lol: