Mastering a certain style of boxing- let's break down the technical factors

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  1. teeto

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    No Tin Ribs, i agree on him being a pure boxer, and a great one. Whether he was great in the grand scheme of things is not in question here so that doesn't matter where we're concerned. That's a great technical performance you posted there. Would you say his arsenal was complete? i.e did he have a full toolbox on the offensive front?
     
  2. teeto

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    Thanks mate.
     
  3. Tin_Ribs

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    I think he had the full arsenal but sometimes neglected to use it properly, instead falling back on his defensive prowess and admiring his own work a bit too much. A bit like Locche, Benitez, Lora and Zapata could at times.

    It's like he sometimes had a full toolbox but preferred cutting someone up with the screwdriver or hacksaw and not using the hammer enough.
     
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    :lol: very nice wordplay there Tin Ribs:good thanks for the post as well, i've got to say, Kalambay was not a fighter i was too familiar with until i hit esb, glad i did, such a good boxer to watch at work.
     
  5. Tin_Ribs

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    Cheers fella :D.

    I knew a lot less about him at one point, it was a mate of mine that told me to go and watch the first McCallum fight. So I did, and I've had a borderline mancrush ever since.
     
  6. teeto

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    :lol::lol:
     
  7. El Bujia

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    I like the Kalambay choice. I'd throw in Miguel Canto for another as far as pure boxers go. Maybe the most sensational ever all things considered. Constantly out-sized at Flyweight, lacking any punching power whatsoever, he managed to pull off the best reign in the division's history in one of its deepest eras. Astounding.

    I'd go into the technical aspects, but in a lot of ways I'd just be mimicking Tin_Ribs's post on Kalambay, as the two were often quite similar stylistically.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I posted in yours yesterday.

    I think Canto's lack of size played into his own hands rather than that of his opponent.
     
  9. dpw417

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    Yes Sir!!!...That was an excellent breakdown on the style of Olivares, who I'm watching alot of recently. Spot on.
     
  10. Tin_Ribs

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    Funnily enough, Canto was the example I was thinking of using before I decided on Kalambay. Magnificent little fighter.

    This thread needs to get some serious attention btw.......
     
  11. El Bujia

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    I'm not so sure. In fact I'd disagree. I think he's at an extreme disadvantage head to head against the rangier out-boxers/boxer-punchers like Zapata and Ohba, to name a couple. I think it was just his near impeccable fundamentals and boxing brain that allowed him to have the success that he did. With a guy like Perez I could understand that assertion, given how his short, stocky frame allowed him to bob and weave his way under opponents/gain leverage on his punches. That sort of frame works a lot better for the pressure fighting/punching types, rarely ever for pure boxers. Those types are a rare commodity, and Canto was head and shoulders above them all (figuratively speaking, of course) in what he was able to achieve despite this handicap.
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I agree against the taller pure boxer's he is at a disadvantage. But against other styles I feel he is at an advantage. His smaller frame makes him less of a target to hit and allows him to get in underneath his opponents shots and spin away as he so often did.
     
  13. El Bujia

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    He was able to utilize what he had very well, obviously, due to his skills, but I don't think his lack of height was an advantage in itself. By that I mean I don't think under any circumstances that he'd have been less successful being taller.
     
  14. GPater11093

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    He would have been different taller though, I dont think he would have been more sucessful if he was taller either though. But he wasnt taller and thats what matters.

    As you say he itilized what he had well, I think height,either lack of it or more of it, isnt an advanatge straight of the bat, you have to use it to your advanatage, and Canto used his lack of height to his advantage.
     
  15. teeto

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    Back online now ma familia. Just reading the debates going on now, very interesting.