Matchroom Head Spin Doctor - Anthony Bellew on Talksport this morning

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  1. Jason Gordon

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    His opinion is worth nothing because he knows nothing.
     
  2. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Is this the same fellow who said Froch filled Wembley with 90.000
     
  3. BXNG101

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    What an embarrassment Tony Bellend Bellew is. A total suck up and an arse kisser. He's retired yet he's still annoying beyond belief.

    You can bet, he'd be that employee that always gets promotions because his superior arse kissing abilities towards the boss.

    There was absolutely no need for him to chime in and defend Joshua like his life depends on it. AJ probably doesn't give a toss about Bellew. yet there is, like an annoying pit bull on social media, rabidly biting at anyone who dares comment negatively against AJ.

    A pathetic man that gives far too much importance to his own opinion and voice.
     
  4. aaaaa

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    Actually think Simon Jordan talks sense on boxing. The same as Jamie O'Hara was when he was bringing that clueless Matchroom bint Laura Woods back down to earth yesterday.
     
  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has a real disdain for the fans too as I recall
     
  6. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was happy to hear Jordan take Sulaiman to task in regards to allowing his champions to sign multiple contracts as that is his wheel house. But beyond that it's just controversial nonsense a lot of the time.

    I get people don't like matchroom and matchroom aligned media, but in the same vein Talk Sport have an obvious bias to Warren and Queensbury. Or at least understand not to go against Frank if they want to maintain access, with Jordan more than happy to go along with it all.

    Just two sides of the same coin

    If you find yourself agreeing with Jordan a lot I don't know what to tell you...
     
  7. Safin

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    2) Full records are relevant when analysing the career of a boxer, but nuance has to be considered when analysing a record for the purpose of predicting future bouts. Fury has changed so much in that time. The Cunningham bout has been brought up ad nauseam. He came into the ring like a loose cannon without any discipline, and got dropped. He wasn't being comprehensively outboxed. He was in a relatively competitive bout until a handful of rounds had passed. He was a 24 year old in America, facing a former cruiserweight champion who, by the way, was actually coming to win. It's a feather in his cap, not a skidmark on his record. Looking at Fury vs Cunningham, all things considered, in the context of an Usyk bout, is pointless. Fury is a totally different boxer. He has regressed in certain elements and improved in others.

    3) There is no excuse for facing Schwarz. He was looking to obviously have an easy bout to ensure his ESPN bucks. Wallin would be in the top 5 of Joshua's wins, so I'm not sure where you're going with that. Wallin literally beat Breazeale, who was apparently worthy enough to be a title challenger for Joshua's IBF belt that he bought off Martin. You seem to be missing here that Fury was not a belt holder at the time he faced any of these opponents. Joshua has faced maths teachers in world title fights, and other stinkers. Huge difference.

    4) He absolutely should be compared with Lennox Lewis whose record is grossly overrated, and who was knocked spark out by two diddies. Wladimir Klitschko was a long reigning champion, but he faced utter diddies on his terms, every single time. There's not a man on his record Fury would lose to. There is not only one way to have a great career. There's the facing crap opposition for a long time way, and then there's beating champions in their den, showing a variety of styles and being in memorable bouts.

    If Fury ends his career having beaten Chisora, Chisora, Cunningham, Klitschko, Wallin, Wilder, Wilder, Wilder, Whyte, Usyk, then that's easily good enough to be teed up against Lewis whose best wins are a farce against Klitschko that he was losing, an old and shot Tyson, old and past it Holyfield, Bruno, Morrison, Rahman and co. It's laughable to suggest otherwise.
     
  8. FastLeft

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    or Bellew!
     
  9. FastLeft

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    guys like Tony Bellew & Johnny Nelson & Carl Froch were accomplished boxer
    but does not mean they speak well about boxing
    they are bitter & bias & are more interested in self ego & the gang mentality than actual sport of boxing
    bitter because they have no career now

    Bellew has very strange cult mind idea about following AJ . weird nasty man
    Johnny Nelson is no longer Matchroom FC but still bitter bias retired old fool
    Froch never had any interest in boxing only in himself

    Bellew I think actually must be repression homosexual
     
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  10. Finkel

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    A lot of would've should've could've. I will always back Fury to come out on top, but comparing his resume to Lewis is fan boy guff.

    Lewis (Tucker '93, Bruno ’93, Akinwande ’97, Briggs ’98, Holyfield ’99, Grant ’00, Tua ’00, Rahman ’01, Tyson ’02, V. Klitschko ’03)
    All championship level wins over guys who were universally regarded as top 10

    In comparison Fury has 4, and he still has to actually beat Usyk (which I think he will)... But he would still only have half the number of Lewis.

    At the end of the day, Fury isn't interested in becoming the ATG that we his fans think he could potentially be. Stop lowering the bar
     
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  11. Shawn michaels

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    He's a promoter. He's going to ffs. Don't let it wind you up.
     
  12. Safin

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    You can’t be expected to be taken seriously when you have just written “would have, should have, could have” or “would’ve, should’ve, could’ve” as that. That’s pathetic. If you can’t grasp something most 8 year old children can grasp, then how can you be expected to talk boxing?
     
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  13. Finkel

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    Already corrected that before you mentioned it dick head.

    It's actually how people speak in certain parts of england, and as language is reflective of use it is actually acceptable in speech. I'm not writing an essay but as I knew the grammar Nazi's would come for me, I put it in the queen's english for you
     
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  14. Safin

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    Imagine even having to correct that. And don’t pull out the autocorrect excuse; it doesn’t work that way. It doesn’t turn people into illiterate thickos, its purpose is precisely the opposite. Dickhead.
     
  15. aaaaa

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    Simon Jordan was slating the undercard of Fury v Whyte whilst Warren was on the show to be fair.