Matchroom sueing Boxxer over Buatsi

Could u imagine what Mick Hennessy could do for Sky with that budget

 

The world famous ex Dublin based Muslim, Mohammed Dan el King of Han will make sure Boxxer get the finger out.

 

I think they will cut boxing in 18 months. I know the viewing figures were acceptable for that move around this past weekend, but they should save the 32 million. Their current content won’t drive new subscribers.

 

I don’t like to talk down about boxers, but he is very poor. Will do nothing and I expect him to lose comfortably to Wardley.

 

I think Adam Smith leaving Sky wasn’t him simply wanting to move on. I wouldn’t be surprised if he just couldn’t work with Shalom anymore as his input wasn’t being valued.

What Shalom is doing with the budget he has is ridiculously bad let alone the issues with matchroom which are leading to legal battles.

What Shalom guaranteed to the last batch of Olympians to get them over matchroom was stupid. There is no point winning the race to sign a fighter if one is paying well above what that fighter is worth.

The deal Whittaker got is insane. What has Boxxer got out of that deal?

 

So we are now expecting Boxxer to show how they can make big money from Whittaker after guess what. Grand total of six fights. Hope you show the same energy for every Olympian Eddie signs going forward after his 6th fight. Start asking what Matchroom gets out of the deal. Big or small contract. Don't care, I want to see the same energy as you feel the need for Boxxer and Sky to justify Whittaker signing after 6 fights.

Actually why you at it ask Eddie what did MR and DAZN get out of the Canelo fight deal they signed apart from millions of pounds lost on every fight he had on DAZN.

Without anything credible to back these theories up it's just pure gossip and speculation because Adam Smith hasn't said much.

I am guessing someone on the Internet is spreading this idea that Shalom can do whatever he wants with Sky's money. The idea sky wasn't the driving force behind signing the likes of Azim and Whittaker for example is farcical. Please tell us which YouTuber is making this wild stories about Adam Smith's position at sky.

All I will say is months ago we were being told Sky made it clear they didn't want Shalom going to purse bids with Frazier Clark vs Wardley as sky felt they could lose and did not want the fight broadcast on DAZN.

Whoever on the web is spreading the theories you listed need to answer the above. Do sky have an input or are they claiming sky have an input but it's just Adam Smith that didn't. Again I would love to know who at at sky Shalom listens to and who he doesn't. Can't be just Adam Smith who had no input on sky/Boxxer future plans.

 

Cmon, you know the rules set by a few on here by now don't you.

Any one signed by Boxxer = they massively overpaid for

Any poorly attended Boxxer show = massively failure thats lost money

Any poorly attended Matchroom show = it's washed its face, even if it's barely shifted a ticked

Any small hall Boxxer show = a sign of failure

Any matchroom small hall show = they got a massive site fee though innit!

Someone for Matchroom is 20-0 without fighting anyone with a pulse = being moved along nicely

Boxxer fighter 6-0 not fighting for titles = absolute failure who's being protected.

The list goes on, but little point in engaging with them, there was one of them recently who said (I kid you not) 'no point in advertising boxing as marketing doesn't work' - that explains the level of intellect your dealing with

 

Shalom is out his depth

but would really like to sky stick with boxing

 

Sky doesn't really need new subscribers, it needs to stop churning the ones it already has (and bringing them back if they left in the past). Your point still stands though, they've got a lot to lose in general if people don't pay.

I just don't think boxing, outside of AJ and the PPV era, registers that highly for Sky - it was good filler content on a Saturday night and took on a bit more prominence with Saturday Night Football leading people into the evening. Aside from that I doubt it's that important.

Boxxer's 4 year deal (if reported correctly) is equivalent to the rights for 5 Premiership games.

 

The boxing content was paid for wholly by the PPV profit it was driving. It was essentially free content for them. Without that PPV money coming in it’s costing them 8 mil a years what they are getting for that 8mil will be reviewed in depth. Some boxxer events are drawing 10% of the womens football on the platform. The value won’t be there without PPV.

Will be lower budget until they can get back on with PPV or withdrawn and a hosting platform for the Saudi cards etc to get a cut

 

Yep. I was saying the same in another thread when last weekend's viewing figures came up. They were average at best and although there is an element of corporate and social box-ticking with womens' sports they still have to wash their face. Women's football is heavily subsidised by the men; boxing events aren't.

Totally understand the PPV-funded model btw; boxing for Sky has always been that elusive "something to show on Saturday night" but they might get better figures showing re-runs. This past couple years they've certainly done that with the Top Rank library.

 

Nope that’s not it at all. The point is even after 10 fights they will not be seeing any return on there investment as paying someone £100k a fight for there first 10 fights is just silly when after those 10 fights he may well leave. I’m not asking them to justify what they have after 6 fights, I’m asking for the justification on to why they felt they needed to pay Whittaker such money? Whittaker was never going to move the needle in his first few fights and nor should he be expected to do so but they still are paying him a fortune.

If matchroom start signing Olympians on the back of rival promoters telling those fighters to take the deal as the money is too good I will gladly question those signings.

You are comparing Apples and Oranges. Any promoter can make mistakes but what we have we Boxxer is a continued list. Whether it’s the pulling out of purse bids debacle, the Okolie debacle, the now Buatsi legal action, they seem to keep making stupid decisions.

To bring up Canelo in response to questioning the Whittaker signing is bizarre. Gambling on the proven biggest draw in the sport to generate business is a far far cry from throwing money at an Olympian.

Yes I am just speculating on Adam Smith. Nothing to do with any YouTuber just I don’t think the situations boxxer seem to get themselves into would be happening if Smith was still @Sky.

Unfortunately for Boxxer, Smith fell Sick so his input hasn’t been felt for a long time but I think it would be absurd to think Smith not being around hasn’t had an impact.

 

If Buatsi wins on Saturday, Boxxer need to try and get the Buatsi v Yarde fight done asap. They should move to try and get it done before any potential Smith v Yarde fight happens.

Also can anyone explain the Joe Parker situation. What happened there? He signed to Boxxer and I think he only had one fight vs Joyce and then was gone.

Did Parker even fight on Sky Sports?

 

He got paid well to fight a cruiserweight on SKY

 

Shalom lacks the experience and know-how to compete with Matchroom and Queensbury. Poor matchmaking, not a great stable and wasting the budget. A prime example of this was the Joseph Parker deal.