Matchroom VADA Testing, other Promoters?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by DramaShow, Aug 31, 2023.


  1. iestyn2020

    iestyn2020 Member Full Member

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    Thats what i am saying only 18 fights across the board, when its lower level guys who are probably on it more than the elites because the latter already done it or like you said are better at it
     
  2. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    It would be good to break the link between the funding and the tests. By which I mean that part of the problem with the additional testing is that it's paid for by the promoter and therefore that's where the reports are sent. A levy on British boxing that was ring fenced for UKAD testing would ensure that the testers weren't working for one of the interested parties.

    For this to work however UKAD testing would have to be enhanced, at present it seems they're not picking up on the things VADA are finding?
     
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  3. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    In the past 12 months Cunningham vs Tete definitely should have had testing - it was a world title fight. I'd argue that McCann vs Baluta (a European level fight) should have had some additional testing as it was one of Warren's biggest main events of the year.
    Not really. How can you have a PPV show where the main event has no additional drug testing? All world title fights should have some additional form of testing to be honest. I don't think there was additional testing for Okolie vs Billam Smith. Ben Shalom needs to answer why he thinks its appropriate for top-level fights to have no additional drug testing if he wants to make the sport safer.
     
  4. Faz42

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    Only way we sort the drug problem in boxing is 24/7 testing....but the reality is that unless its externally funded it will never be brought in.

    Maybe the top organisations should insist on it for all top 30 fighters.....or top 20 at least.
     
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  5. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    This is what Hearn and Matchroom are trying to introduce for all Matchroom fighters. It does seem like Matchroom are at the forefront of the movement to make the sport safer with more stringent testing.
     
  6. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Failed UKAD years ago and VADA twice.
     
  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a WBC ranked fight yes? So should they not be doing it?
     
  8. Holler

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    Whether or not a world title is at stake should be immaterial, ranking also, otherwise we'll get doping up and until someone reaches world level, disadvantaging the champions. In any case we all understand that belts mean little in this 4 title era, so why make them the criteria for a decent level of oversight?

    It needs to be properly funded, randomised, impartial and independent. There needs to be sufficient testing in place to increase the risk of cheating to the extent that people conclude it's not worth the risk.

    How do we get there? Pros and cons to the different approaches, but some kind of levy, maybe via the BBoC license could address the funding side?
     
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  9. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My point was if UKAD are so rubbish how did he fail their tests but pass VADA versus Rivas.
     
  10. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    Class response from Hearn.
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    Great tweet.
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    Because they test at different times. VADA test much more frequently than UKAD do. Eubank Jr was training in the US. How many times do you think UKAD tested him in the US, if any? I reckon the only tests he'll have are the one at the beginning of fight week and then one after the fight.
     
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  11. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    People throwing shade at Matchroom over recent drug testing outcomes are completely missing the point.

    At least they are properly testing all there fighters.
     
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  12. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pointless if they ignore the outcome when it suits them.
     
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  13. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    exactly...

    Don't waste your time on matchroom shills though you're banging your head on a brick wall
     
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  14. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look we just want to watch some fights. We don't care if they're all on gear. It didn't matter when Iron Mike was in his pomp taking the **** literally with his whizzer so it shouldn't matter now either.
     
  15. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    They can test their fighters 7 days a week and twice on Sundays but it's worthless if they viciously go after the organisations who have the temerity to return positive results to their A side fighters.

    Quite apt from Jr..

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