Matchroom VADA Testing, other Promoters?

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  1. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It does. You made the point that if matchroom were to lose money they would act as they did with Benn v Eubank. The AJ v Whyte rematch was that scenario and they did not.
     
  2. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    The point was clear that they are willing to disregard test results if it means they could make money in the future. There was nothing they could do in such a short time to get the Joshua vs Whyte PPV to go ahead. That money was already lost and they've nothing more to gain from Whyte so that's that. But you know this and knew exactly what I meant..
     
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  3. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If SeanB1 wasn't banned he would back me up here I think, but what's the point of spunking money on tests in the run-up / aftermath of fights, when only an idiot would get the cycle wrong and get busted?

    Let's say Joe Boxer from Manchester gets a title fight against Jose Mexican with 12 weeks notice - would Jose be tested before the fight gets signed? If not, what's the point? Why not stand up as a promoter and say they will only book fighters with two valid, negative WADA-compliant and recognised tests from the previous six months?
     
  4. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    Well high profile fighters have been caught by VADA recently like Benn, Whyte, Helenius, Baumgardner, Puello and more…
     
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  5. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think there's any point in this debate if it's going to go round in circles. A handful of big cards funded some testing and found some positives. A handful of tests across the entire spectrum of UK boxing found almost none. Go figure.
     
  6. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    Yeah because they only had UKAD testing and no VADA testing…
     
  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He failed the VADA test vs Rivas not UKAD. He failed a UKAD test early in his career.
     
  8. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Incorrect.

    “During the week of the July 20 fight, the results of a random test conducted on June 17 by UKAD, which oversees drug testing in the United Kingdom, came back positive for the banned steroid dianabol in his A sample. The results of Whyte's B sample have not yet been returned.”

    Part of his defence was he’d passed VADA.
     
  9. Bfcad

    Bfcad Active Member Full Member

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    what were the punishments for being caught?
     
  10. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    Puello banned for six months. Whyte, Helenius and Baumgardner are being investigated. The positive is that Benn, Whyte and Puello were not allowed to fight. If they didn't take VADA tests, they would have got in the ring on an illegal substance(s).
     
  11. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it wasn’t for the someone letting the secret out that Benn failed two tests (by fair means or foul) all parties involved in that fight would have let it go ahead.

    Any concern for welfare and the eminence of VADA is destroyed by that one case where it apparently didn’t matter. The key being “voluntary”.
     
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  12. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    It seems Baumgardner is going the Benn route. Hearn has dodged all questions about it from what I've seen, and Baumgardner's statement of course professes her innocent and waffles about being a role model for girls and how she has a lot more to say about her journey. Matchroom statement saying nothing other than they'll assist her and her team.

    So straight off the bat it looks like we can expect excuses with zero evidence and the whole drugs testing process being undermined.. again. But hey they test a lot.
     
  13. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think his point was they are willing to do VADA testing on their PPV, even if it risks an adverse finding
     
  14. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    Baumgardner's failed test has nothing to do with Matchroom in terms of the process of investigation. That involves Baumgardner, her manager and her lawyers.
     
  15. Bfcad

    Bfcad Active Member Full Member

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    So no actual punishment for Benn? How many tests did he fail again?
     
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