Matchroom VADA Testing, other Promoters?

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  1. ZiggerZagger

    ZiggerZagger Active Member Full Member

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    This makes zero sense , you say he is being criticised for his hypocrisy and trying to take the moral high ground after his previous behaviour, the moral high ground being he now wants more testing ? So that is exactly what he is being criticised for , in your very own words.
     
  2. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He literally said: "Absolute nobody is criticising Hearn for having more testing"

    The hypocrisy is over VADA suddenly being the be-all and end-all after spending most of a year mysteriously trying to get Benn out of a bad VADA result. Now that Whyte and Helenius have also tested positive, apparently VADA is the gold standard and there should be lots more of it. Why isn't it the gold standard for Benn, and why did it take 270 pages and (possibly) a technicality, none of which has been made public, to get out of it? That's the hypocrisy few of us can stand.

    Scrub the last year of Benn nonsense and nobody would have a bad word to say about anything Hearn's suggesting now.
     
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  3. ALN93

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    Because he’s going round calling other promoters out for their stance on drug use yet behaved appallingly when Benn failed a test and still is.

    Don’t believe for one second that this new testing he’s banging on about is for the good of the sport. It’s to save face and try and change the narrative regarding Matchroom and drug use as their reputation took a hiding with the Benn saga.

    When Benn failed a VADA test then Hearn was saying it was contamination. When the opponents of Matchroom fighters fail a VADA test it’s 100% accurate and fights are cancelled straight away, or if the fight has already happened then there’s no investigation or scientists etc they’re just guilty as charged.
     
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  4. scandcb

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    I really hope you are both trolls.

    Stanning for Eddie Hearn is one of the saddest things I've experienced.
     
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  5. ALN93

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    Nah mate Matchroom are being clever!!

    Just gloss over your own fighters failed tests and call other promoters out. Legendary stuff from Hearn!

    Shalom must be struggling to sleep!!
     
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  6. Bob Flaps

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    The problem is, it is clever. They know the media generally report the last thing Hearn says as gospel and until Benn is properly back in the limelight (probably only going to happen with a Eubank fight, as he wasn't a particularly mainstream celeb before) Matchroom can get away with just about anything.

    The £10,000 donation to the Lynn the other day and Hearn's "all welcome to Matchroom HQ" stunt for all the YouTubers this week shows they're on a PR drive. It's shameless in a way but you have to kind of admire it.
     
  7. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not Vada being the be all and end all. If Ukad had the resources to test more they wouldn't be using Vada for extra testing.

    Matchroom would rather not have to pay $30k per fight for VADA testing but it's a necessity if they want fighters tested comprehensivly before the fight.

    As for the Connor Benn stuff. Connor Benn fought the case not matchroom. However even if Hearn claims Vada is the gold standard that doesn't mean he can't believe Connor Benn wasn't juicing.

    Each case has its own merits. Hearn believing Benn wasn't doping doesn't mean he thinks Vada is flawed.
     
  8. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Guilty as charged?

    Please post a quote from Eddie Hearn which he said helenuios and Whyte are guilty as charged?

    He keeps repeating that every fighter who fails a test deserve the opportunity to defend those charges.
     
  9. ALN93

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    How come the Miller fight was immediately pulled 6 weeks out but when Benn failed a test 2 months before the fight was still planned to go ahead until journalists leaked the news a few days before the fight? I’d say that’s guilty as charged.

    Where were the statements from Matchroom when Benn and Baumgardner failed? How come journalists had to leak it first before Matchroom admitted it?
     
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  10. Bob Flaps

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    I would like Hearn or one of the many Matchroom acolytes come out and say UKAD is grossly underfunded for the job it’s doing and pressure the sport into improving that situation. 30 grand would make a massive difference here.

    UKAD could even sub-contract testing to VADA where a fighter is being brought over here and keep everything under one set of rules and jurisdiction. None of this is unreasonable but all we hear is “UKAD bad, VADA good”.

    As for Benn, if Hearn hadn’t repeatedly said “it’s Benn’s fight not mine, although I know all the details and can’t tell you” I might have some sympathy.
     
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  11. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not the job of matchroom to fund Ukad. Ukad receives funding from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.

    It's not the job of private companies to make up the shortfall for underfunded public services from the Tory government.

    Again where has he said Ukad bad. All his done is highlight that Ukad don't have the resources to carry out extensive testing.

    This would be the same in all sports. If you want anyone to increase Ukads resources maybe start targeting mega wealthy epl football clubs or better start calling the tories out.
     
  12. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We have been through this all before.

    Why didn't the bboc pull the fight? They are the ones with the authority to do so.

    They had the Benn results and then did nothing. Thats not good governance.

    The fact that nobody knew about Amir Khan failing a test tells you confidentiality is a thing.

    If test results get leaked then they have to address it but that doesn't change the the fact that the general rule is it stays confidential.
     
  13. nurological

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    Because maybe the board were hit with legal threats as soon as they found out about the results?

    Also as its a jurisdiction issue, he passed UKAD, they didn't have the power to pull the fight? Or at the very least were unsure if they would be taken to the cleaners.

    But let's neglect these things.
     
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  14. Bob Flaps

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    Utter nonsense.

    UKAD makes around 25% of its income from private commissioning, it's simply not high enough and only covers what the buyers ask for. Why should the taxpayer fund commercial boxing or any other commercial sport? Fair enough if you want to see Olympic prospects regularly tested without hitting their training money - I can see that. Everything else should come from the sports.

    It's the job of the commission to fund UKAD to conduct more tests and the commission makes its money from licensees. Licensees ultimately make their money from promotions.
     
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  15. ALN93

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    Well we’ve seen Hearn and Benn threaten to start legal proceedings against the BBBoC. They were probably told they’d be sued for loss of earnings should they pull it.