Mavin Hagler Eats Bernard Hopkins

Hopkins probably be favored but he wouldn't win. Hopkins couldn't put the power on him whereas Roldan was heavy handed with the left and the right. That's the knock on Bernard. He's a good technical fighter with adequate strength and stamina but lacks a real punch and he can't beat the elite fighters.

Put him in with a Roy Jones, a Marvin Hagler, or Monzon and he comes up a loser every time.

With Roldan, No way Hopkins is taking 12 rounds or even 10 rounds of hard knocks. he'd have hell trying to catch his head and wouldn't avoid Roldan's punches that come up at you. Most fighters train to and can avoid punches that come over the top but not from underneath.

If you saw Roldan in the Hagler fight you can plainly see Roldan holds advantages over Hopkins that count-stamina, strength, power in both hands, head movement and Bernard would never be able to hurt him.

So how would he slow his attack? He wouldn't. He'd be helpless while Roldan punched holes in him. The besthe could do is survive while Roldan grids him to a fine powder.

As for beating hopkins beating Hagler forget the crap you see about pride being Hagler's downfall. Had Marvin been that easy to beat he would have lost long before the leonard fight-several times over. Hopkins was just cut from a lesser stock.

 

I wonder what kind of psychological warfare Hopkins would put on Hagler before the fight, like Gay Ray did.

B-Hop has the conniving type of personality that I can see where him getting to Hagler's head.

 

:rofl :rofl

 

Hopkins at his age just tries to motivate himself father time is catching up to him but i still believe he beats Roldan in adecision 15 rounds

 

Well I'm sorry but that's the way it is

 

Hopkins wouldn't last 15 rounds

 

Marvin Hagler is the greater fighter of the two. Hopkins talks a good fight about war and knocking people out but he isn't really about it. When Hagler talked about knocking someone out and going to war he went to war not throwing a punch come with headbutt grab etc. Hagler defeated better fighters no doubt. Thomas "Hitman" Hearns is a much better win that Trinidad. Hearns was p4p better than Tito and accomplished much more at the higher weights. Roberto Duran is a better win than Oscar. What really gets to me is that the De La Hoya win has done so much for hopkins legacy when in actuality Oscar was **** as a middleweight he arguably lost to sturm and looked like **** in that fight. Where as Duran although not at his prime weight was still a very good middleweight because he was just a master at fighting period. His credibility as an opponent for Hagler grows when you consider 6 years later he beat Iran Barkley for the WBC middleweight title. The two biggest middleweight wins for Hopkins don't compare to Haglers. To say that Hopkins and Hagler's chin and punch resistance is equal or close is again incorrect. Hagler's chin is tested against some of the big punchers of all time Thomas Hearns, Bennie Briscoe, Eugene Hart, John Mugabi all were ranked very high on the Ring 100 Greatest Punchers list. Hopkins chin wasn't tested like Haglers but i do recall him being hurt and dropped by Mercado in there first fight. I'll take Hamsho, Roldan, Antoufermo as greater wins than Echol, Simon Brown, or Roberto Allen. Hagler's resume is better than hopkins and he was the more gifted fighter of the two. Hopkins is a chery picker and i believe he is overrated. He ducked Roy Jones for 60-40 in a fight he was offered 6 million he ducked Jones cause he knew he wouldn't win by saying 50-50 :rofl Why did he fight Tito for 30% of the purse and like 3 million dollars cause he knew it was a fight he could win. Hopkins and Toney were gonna fight at a catch weight the fight was cancelled at some last minute cause Hopkins didn't sign he wanted more money i believe he was offered 2/3 million he was going to make as much or more than James but he declined due to some bull by making more demands instead fought Hakker or somebody for like 100,000 :rofl . Damn this guy is really the baddest man in boxing. He made 10 million against Oscar but why did he take it oscar was getting 30 if we go by percentages its way less than getitng 6 million for Jones. Again cause he knew he would win and oscar is nothing at middle. He went after Tarver cause he knew that tarver was taking him for granted and the filming for Rocky 6 Tarver was out of shape as he had bulked up to heavy and the weight loss would work in a similar way it did to jones as he lost weight from Ruiz fight to go back to 175 clearly it affected his performance thus he knew Tarver would be easier fight than many expected.

Hopkins deserves credit for his longevity and is a top 5 middleweight of all time i am not totally bias and blind hate but i have strong opinions but i give hopkins credit for something but he isn't in the class of the Monzon's, Hagler, Robinsons.

 

atsch

 

:rofl

 

Marvin wins. No problem. Hagler was fighting guys equal to Nard's title defenses in his 2nd year as a pro in 1974. And although younger when he retired, he had 20 more fights than Hopkins. Hearns and Mugabi would have knocked Nard out cold. :smoke

 

I never thought of Roldan as being in Roy Jones league. Jones was very dominant against top competition for a long period of time.

 

Marv might beat him, but he doesn't eat him. Negro is not that hungry

 

Great post shareef....Guys you should really question bernards willingness to fight the best,he should have rematched jones,fought toney and fought tougher guys like clazaghe,benn,jackson,eubank or prime lt heavies for his legacy,rather than beating lesser middles and on the slide fighters.....
bernards slick yes,in avoiding the better prime fighters.....I give him credit for tito and he is great but not on the level of hagler and the other atgs....Nunn would have probably beaten nard....

 

IMO Hopkins is the most overrated fighter on ESB when I read articles and posts like "He was/ is better in every thing Hagler did...", forget it, Hagler would put on a beating on Hopkins...


Hagler TKO 12 Hopkins

 

I agree with you, IMO it´s out of question that Roldon had one-punch- wise at least twice the power Hopkins had...