Max Baer replaces Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Melankomas, Sep 19, 2025 at 12:17 PM.


  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I think you've mildly overstated early career stuff. The early 80's were the same, where one loss was seen as a significant setback.........however myriads of fighters rose above this, a great many.

    I mean, Wilder was molly coddled almost all the way TBH, so i am partial to counter arguments. When the opposition rose his wins were gone. Unfortunately this happened late career so it's a bit of a blur as to his standing, with leeway for excuses. One things for sure tho, Tyson Fury owned him. He may have had lots of trouble in two of the three fights but he won both of them on top of the absolute flogging he dished out.

    I'll give you a leg up for add ons for a future debate if it runs the same course of this. Concentrate on the old timers ridiculous schedules. The streak of 7 i mentioned first, well he had 16 fights in 1929 and this loss was via DQ. I mean, who can't pick up a loss fighting 16 times in a year, their first year? He had another DQ, first fight in 1930. He avenged by KO next fight, and picked up another 2 losses by the end of 1930.......a year in which he fought a whopping 12 times. The last fight loss in 31 coincided with a big step up in competition and he picked up another 3 in his next 5 fights, against experienced high caliber opposition. He was then off and running all the way to the title.

    So realistically those first 7 losses don't mean much of anything, in the big scheme of things. With context they are highly understandable.
     
  2. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I would have to put money on it i would always åut it in a modern guy. Like in every sport and would win too
     
  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Baer has nothing for a prime Ortiz, he’s outmatched in basically every department, Wilder at least had the reach and a long straight right where he could land if Ortiz switched off, it’s much easier to land at range than having to get in range.
     
  4. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Baer was very big for his era. My father and my cousin met him many years ago and thought that he was huge. He was what? 6'3" tall and 215?
    I don't think that there is much between them skill-wise, when comparing him to Wilder. Wilder was 4" taller and tall is a nice gift to have if you are a right hand puncher.
    Baer, in this era, would be a tiny guy and the way he fought would not translate well without a size advantage.