Max Baer vs David Tua

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Aug 23, 2018.


Who wins and how

  1. Baer KO

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  2. Baer TKO

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  3. Baer UD

    26.3%
  4. Baer SD

    3.5%
  5. Tua KO

    42.1%
  6. Tua TKO

    15.8%
  7. Tua UD

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  8. Tua SD

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  9. Draw

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    When did Max Baer turn into Lennox Lewis? I must have missed something.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    He was a lot more like George Foreman actually, and that is bad news for Tua!
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Not only was Baer not George Foreman but he never even fought anyone other than Louis who was in Fraizer's class and we saw how that turned out.
     
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  4. janitor

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    Tua was not in Frazier's class either, so what are you complaining about?
     
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  5. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    Let's put it this way: If Max Baer is Arnold Palmer, then Tua's head is the golf ball on the tee
     
  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    When he entered janitor's head and automatically gained +5 points in boxing skill and a +2 boost to power.
     
  7. It's Ovah

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    He was more like a wilder, hands down version of Marco Huck than anything approaching Foreman's class.
     
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  8. The Senator

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    Of course, Baer's right hand was broken, and the anathesia was worn off by fight time, if you're considering that particular fight to judge Baer's ability to deal with great fighters.

    I still think prime or even post prime Louis wipes the mat with a healthy Baer, and that Foreman was on an entirely higher level than Baer as well. But the Baer-Louis fight to me seems to be a bit of an unfair one to judge him by.
     
  9. he grant

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    There is zero proof Baer had a broken hand. He got destroyed by far and away the best fighter he ever fought.
     
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  10. Seamus

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    So, the Great Max Baer is going to do what Ibeabuchi, Rahman and Lewis could not.

    Gotcha.
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Baer has some of the physical assets to win this but has none of the tools nor elite athleticism in combination with them that it took to derail a prime Tua.

    He's slow as molasses, doesn't cover up after he punches and is lazy on the inside. He allowed Schmeling to basically choose whatever distance he wanted to operate at. The more I look at Baer's best performances the firmer my belief that this ends brutally and quickly for him. Too many mistakes.
     
  12. janitor

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    He might just do that.

    Baer was a more dangerous puncher than Ibeabuci or Rahman, and he was a lot less safety first than Lewis.

    In practice Tua probably signs the silent contract somewhere during the fight.
     
  13. Seamus

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    Seriously, watch the two of them in their best performances. Baer is out of his depth here. Slow-twitch swing from the fences sorts with no defense have little to no chance against Tua. And if he dares play the clown he gets Ruiz'd in shorter order.
     
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  14. janitor

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    On the contrary, Tua is out of his depth.

    This is a 5' 10'' swarmer, who basically lost whenever he stepped up, against a 6' 2'' slugger who held the lineal title.

    Baer holds both the stylistic advantage, and the qualitative advantage.

    He should be able to win this if his head is screwed on that night!
     
  15. Seamus

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    Stepping up in 1997 was drastically different than in 1934. An Ibeabuchi or Lewis would have ripped an enmendable hole thru that era. Completely different athletic and skill level between Carnera/Schmeling/Baer and those .

    And pray tell, how being horrible both offensively and defensively equates to either a stylistic or qualitative advantage. I'm all ears.