Max Baer vs David Tua

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Aug 23, 2018.


Who wins and how

  1. Baer KO

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  2. Baer TKO

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  3. Baer UD

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  4. Baer SD

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  5. Tua KO

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  6. Tua TKO

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  7. Tua UD

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  8. Tua SD

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  9. Draw

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing of these above, because you compare legit ATG champions to each other, not to David freaking Tua. I'm not oldschool worshipper, I just can't stand this level of love for Tua who proved next to nothing in his career.

    Schmeling beat legit great fighters, he looks great on the film and he was much more skilled than Tua. But Tua fought in your beloved 1990s era, so he has to be better right?
     
  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schmeling was much more skilled boxer than Tua.
    I didn't compare Tua to Galento, try reading what I write instead of putting words into my mouth.
    Tua the most dangerous fighter ever? Yeah, not overrated at all :D
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    To think that Tua was better than Schmeling, you would basically have to think that results counted for nothing!
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Nobody ever KO'd Max, except Joe Louis, and Baer could probably have got up if he had wanted to.

    Your prediction takes no account of Baer's durability, and indeed no account of Tua's power and ability to land it.
     
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  5. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    most dangerous meaning nobody could go toe to toe thats not overrating its fact he hit to hard he needed to be fought from outside

    you said by my logic max never beat a swammer who was short which is galento nobody else is compared to dave except that dude from that era where is words put in at
     
  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ike didn't mind going toe to toe with him and he wasn't even decked.
    No, Baer faced more swarmers than Galento. It's just that it's the most famous swarmer he fought and the fight is the one we have footage from. Among fights with available footage, Baer also faced Levinsky and stopped him early.

    People have to stop to assume that fighters from that era only faced opponents available on the tape. Baer fought 80 times, he faced a lot of swarmers, a lot of massive hitters and a lot of fighters bigger than him.
     
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  7. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    ike was on juice he doesn't count much the other fighters couldnt well if galento was the most known he is all that matters on the comparison

    going from galento he was dangerous to max even though he wasnt skilled dave was way better then galento
     
  8. Kamikaze

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    David was on the juice like everyone in the 80s-Current, Bob Hazelton was also on the juice and he was a journeyman.
     
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  9. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like most 1990s boxers...?
    He's well known because of his personality and because he was fat, not because he was one of the best.
    No, Baer handled Galento easily. That was past prime Baer by the way.
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ridiculous. Boxing has changed since the first half of the 1900s. What Jack Johnson achieved in his era was impressive but if somebody like Luis Ortiz was thrown back in time and he fought in Johnsons era, he'd obliterate everyone. It's something you can't comprehend. H2H is different from Legacy. Jack Johnson would get dismantled by Wladimir Klitschko and any top 10 fighter from today. David Tua would slide Johnson, Dempsey, and especially that rudimentary gorilla Carnera in the same night. Skill wise and power wise David Tua would be an all powerful monster in the early 1900s and you would be chanting ATG because he would beat almost everyone in those eras. And Jack Dempsey is a damn sub 200 pounder. He would get killed by modern world class SHWs. The ones that existed in his era were crude oafs. The video evidence exists. Primo Carnera would be a journeyman nowadays and Buddy Baer too. If you can't see that i don't know what to tell you. Whats next ? John L Sullivan gives Lennox Lewis nightmares ? LOL
     
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  11. janitor

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    What makes you so sure he wouldn't.

    Does Sullivan not impress you in the highlight reels?
     
  12. moneytheman12

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    not a old era worshiper yea you are you said Louis could beat lennox did you forget that it's no way he could not without upgrading to modern
     
  13. moneytheman12

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    facts agian I wouldnt wanna see dave in that era he would be to dangerous he would probably be banned George and any other strong hw hitter from the 70-90s
     
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  14. moneytheman12

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    he did but doesn't mean galento wasnt seen as dangerous before the match is what im saying
     
  15. robert ungurean

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    Taking Baer by UD. Tua is just too lazy across the whole spectrum of his career.
     
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