Max Baer vs Ernesto Shavers

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Aug 27, 2025 at 5:09 PM.


Who wins and how

  1. Shavers KO/TKO

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  2. Baer KO/TKO

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  3. Shavers Decision

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  4. Baer Decision

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  5. Draw

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    The best of each face off in the square circle. Who wins?
     
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  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would be a shootout however long it lasts, some of my favourite the durability of Baer, but some may think Shavers is able to pounce on him early, beat him to the punch with better technique and delivery and take him out, but I suspect most wouldn’t pick the latter.
     
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  3. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think between Baers durability and ability to carry his power he comes out with a win. But you never know a Shavers.
     
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  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Baer’s durability, superior stamina and toughness wins it for him.
     
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  5. Journeyman92

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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Never thought you'd pick a Baer to win against any post 1960s heavyweight. If you pick Max Baer to KO Usyk, I'll know an imposter is posting from your account
     
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  7. Journeyman92

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    Why? I say Louis wrecks modern fighters all the time? I don’t favour any era, I judge things case by case.
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    So does Buddy Baer wreck Usyk??
     
  9. Journeyman92

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    No but he might do better then expected considering a primitive Chisora did okay.
     
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  10. Glass City Cobra

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    Power Tiny edge Shavers maybe
    Speed Shavers
    Chin Baer
    Footwork Baer
    Technique Shavers
    Combinations Shavers
    Stamina Baer
    Body shots Baer
    Defense Even (both were terrible)
    Timing Shavers
    Accuracy Even (both were sloppy)
    Combinations Shavers
    Ring IQ Baer
    Heart Shavers

    7-2-5 Slight edge Shavers

    Depends on which Baer shows up. Shavers almost certainly loses unless it's prime Shavers 74-79.

    At his best, he had what it takes to survive a chaotic war with Shavers. Baer has a great chin, but a questionable heart, while Shavers had a questionable chin and great heart. Both hit hard enough to give a T Rex a headache, and both had bad defense and a tendency to slug, so it isn't a question of "if" there'll be a KO, but when.

    Baer has many physical advantages including durability and stamina, but his lack of discipline in terms of both his technique and will to win could cost him. If Baer is even a little out of shape, fools around (which he often did), or falters in his heart, Shavers would eat him alive. Those are a lot of "ifs", and if you have to qualify so many statements to favor someone, there's a good chance they might lose.

    On paper, if Baer puts on his game face from round 1 and makes it a rough, tough ugly fight immediately trying to take Shavers' head off, that's his best chance to win. It would probably closely resemble the Lyle fight with a similar result: Baer weathering the storm and peeling himself off the canvas to win a painful battle. He was overall tougher than Shavers and also had edges in height and reach, and in a rough world fight Shavers' advantages in timing, technique, etc would be negligible. We've seen Shavers crumble under pressure multiple times.

    So despite tallying several things for Shavers, my better judgement tells me Baer likely wins this more often than not. I except him to win at least 65-70% of the time simply because with these two, it's almost guaranteed they'll meet ring center and it'll erupt into a wild war where Baer will have the advantage and eventually drowns Shavers who wasn't known for his endurance. Nor is Shavers known for making adjustments mid-fight switching to boxing.

    Verdict: Baer by KO in round 5 in what would probably win fight of the year.