Max Baer vs. Jim Corbett

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Max Baer vs. Jim Corbett

  1. Baer via stoppage

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  2. Baer on points

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  3. Corbett via stoppage

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  4. Corbett via points

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  5. Split decision either way or draw. Too close to call.

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  1. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Member Full Member

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    Baer's way too big and strong. Corbett wouldn't touch him.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Corbett’s actual record I’d you go by news wins in some shorter fights before facing Fitzsimmons was 59-0-3

    For those picking Baer how do you factor in the many decisions he lost?
     
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  3. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boom!
     
  4. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most of his losses came after the Campbell death. He lost focus and desire.
     
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  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti The Ad Wolgast of Googling Stuff Full Member

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    He wasn't facing nearly as good competition as a lot of his later losses before that fight, and he still dropped some losses. His big wins were also after that fight.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Hall of fame fighters such as Sullivan, Mitchell, Kirlain, Choysnki, and McCoy.

    Corbett's known record has little fat on it.

    He also drew with Peter Jackson. Going on the round by round report, Corbett won more of the rounds before the pace slowed.
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Baer was a clown type, he was only really up for two fights. Schmeling to prove a jewish guy could beat a German in a fair fight, and Carnera for the title
     
  8. Greb & Papke 707

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    This sums it up perfectly
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cool story.

    But Baer wasn't Jewish.
     
  10. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    That's if you count exhibitions ,which I don't, and neither did ,Corbett,Box Rec ,IBHOF, CBZ,or the Ring Magazine.
     
  11. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Sullivan was a wreck ,Mitchell was a past it middleweight,Kilrain was a bareknuckler,Choynski was a novice,McCoy? Too many questions about that fight for me to give him credit for it.
    Only two of those wins were over what we could reasonably term heavyweights,one was a fat alcoholic who was 34 years old and hadn't fought for 4 years,the other was more used to barefists and crossbuttock wrestling.Any promoter who staged a contest between little158lbs 5'9" Charlie Mitchell and Max Baer would be locked up.

    Corbett's official record is extremely underwhelming ,imo.
     
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  12. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, for a man with so few known (BoxRec) fights, Corbett fought/beat an awful lot of future HOFers. On paper this looks very impressive.

    But we have to consider, that the percentage of known boxers back then, who would eventually be voted into the IBHOF, was much, much higher than is the case today. In other words, it was much easier for Corbett's contemporaries to (unknowingly, of course) be future HOFers.
     
  13. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    How many HOF's over 175lbs did he beat ? How many were anywhere near their prime?
    How do you think five feet nine 158lbs Charlie Mitchell who was on the slide , would do against Max Baer?
    Jake Kilrain? Lhvy Kod McCoy?Thirty four years old retired for four years fat and alcoholic Sullivan?
     
  14. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Baer lost to Kennedy when he was 20 years old.
    To Loughran,Risko,Schaaf when he was 21years old.
    Loughran had already beaten the following men when he fought 21years old Baer.
    Stribling,Greb,McTigue,Slattery,Lomski,Braddock,Latzo,Walker,Chalres,Renault Schaaf,Levinsky.


    To Uzcudun when he was 22 years old.
    He reversed the decisions against Risko and Kennedy.
    Here is Kennedy with someone you may recognize.

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    Want to compare the calibre of opponents Baer met with those Corbett was facing at the same ages?
     
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  15. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you must have misread my post - which wasn't an argument in favour of Corbett!

    On the contrary - what I in fact was trying to say, is that his record isn't really as impressive, as it looks on paper (given the huge overrepresentation of HOFers from his time)
     

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