max baer vs ken norton.....

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  1. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    does norton outbox max for the win or does maxie connect with his sledgehammer right and end it?
     
  2. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    i think baer takes it. nortons chin wasn't that great as for max chin that was a granite one.
     
  3. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Norton would have to outbox Baer to get the win. I think he could do this. I'm sure Baer would land some good punches and hurt Norton, maybe even drop him once or twice... but I think Norton wins by decision.
     
  4. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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  5. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Baer wasn't much of a boxer. Durable and powerful, not much else.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just how I see it panning out.
     
  7. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's all he would need to be. The problem with Norton is that he didn't really try to outbox anybody. He imposed his physical superiority as far as size, strength and power is concerned with admittedly skillful methods and sometimes this paid off and sometimes it didn't.
     
  8. abraq

    abraq Active Member Full Member

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    Norton is the better overall fighter and realistically can take the decision. But Max has a puncher's chance here. And what a chance it is!

    The exciting scenario is Norton ahead on points when Baer connects with a big punch and finishes it.

    The drab scenario is Norton piles up the points over the course of the fight as Max mugs his way through.

    I would like to take the exciting scenario.

    Good match-up, anyway.
     
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  9. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Max was one of the few heavyweight champions stylistically and temperamentally weirder than Ken. I think he'd retreat, getting Norton into his forward mobility preference to sucker him in, then without warning drop the boom like he did to Comiskey.

    Norton was predictable. Maxie wasn't. If Baer lets this thing go the limit, Kenny obviously wins. Given proper motivation and an opportunity to drop the bomb (and it could well come from a left hook, as King Levinski discovered in his exhibition with Max), he takes Norton out.

    I don't believe Ken had anything to hurt Baer with. The reverse clearly isn't true.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If you can find a reason to favour Norton, then you almost certainly over rate the 70s fighters.
     
  11. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Norton can“t fight going backwards. Max would force him there and finish him.
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I have to agree.
     
  13. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really don't like Norton's chances, especially after how he fared against other huge punchers. Duodenum summed it up right.
     
  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Norton was as big as Baer in height and reach. He had a terrific jab, was a much better combination puncher and over all boxer .. They both were well conditioned at their best ... the big question is if Baer storms out and Norton freezes ... it's very possible .. If Max does not stop him fast I like Norton to tear him up pretty good but it's a huge question mark ..
     
  15. gentleman jim

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    I'll go with Norton in this one. Sure it's possible that Max could ko Ken but I don't think it's likely. Max had a big right hand but not much else whereas Ken was a good boxer with 2 good hands and used them both a lot during a fight. For Max to win it has to be by knockout and it has to be soon. He has to come out storming and looking to land a booming right hand....or rather a few booming right hands to put kenny on ***** street. The problem I see is that Max doesn't utilize a jab despite his reach and I can't remember seeing him use a good left hook or uppercut to go along with his right. Against Norton he would need those weapons. Throwing an occasional hard right won't cut it. It won't back Norton up enough to set up more powerful shots. That's the formula for beating Ken...you've got to back him up. Foreman hit him with right hands, jabs, hooks and uppercuts before stopping Norton. He didn't just wing a hard right every now and then the way Baer has a penchant for doing. A couple of earlier posts have Norton by decision after landing a lot and this is how I see it as well. If Baer fought the way Foreman or Cooney did against Norton then he has a good chance of stopping him but I don't see it. Norton by decision,