max baer vs ron lyle....

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Why not?

    He clearly has the tools to do it, and then some.
     
  2. janitor

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    While Foreman was undoubtedly a greater fighter than Baer, I would give Baer the edge in chin if anything.

    I also don't like the logic that Billy Conn or James Douglas beat ATGs , because they gave one ATG problems.
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Please, don't even start with basketball comparison. I bet you know next to nothing about basketball and its history and unlike with boxing, I'm history nerd about basketball.

    Don't make yourself more silly than you already do.
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

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    I legitimately don’t think that’s possible :lol:
     
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  5. moneytheman12

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    where was I wrong at cause it's the same boxers got better over time just like nba you cant name a boxer who hit hard as gerry George or ron in Max's era not one who had good skill and who wasnt sloopy it is none

    George gerry ron ali frazier would have a good time destroying that era looks like you like being silly when facts expose bull from you
     
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  6. White Bomber

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    Louis is nowhere near the puncher Foreman is in terms of pure punching power.
     
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  7. White Bomber

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    Baer ain't got the tools
     
  8. moneytheman12

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    yea not close its dumb to compare those two

    louis punches was more sharp and he had better aim he was more of a lw though compared to 70s or any era after so his punches would feel lighter vs those

    like I said those dudes wouldnt be able to cause the same type of damage in other eras
     
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  9. janitor

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    He was a far more dangerous finisher than Foreman ever was.
     
  10. 70sFan865

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    Based on your baseless assumption?
     
  11. White Bomber

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    He was far more accurate than Foreman, but he did not hit as hard.
    So I can agree that if he had you on the ropes, it is possible for Louis to inflict more damage due to his ability to land more clean shots, BUT if he hit you with just 1 clean shot, he won't cause anywhere near the damage Foreman would if he caught you with a similar one.
    It is on this that I base my opinion that Lyle had a better chin than Baer.
     
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  12. White Bomber

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    No, based on the footage available from both and based on the equipment they used.
     
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    same as I said just in different way it is no opinion its fact ron was way tougher for big shots he never would be hurt bad from a lw like Louis or any of those dudes

    ron had George hurt real quick in 1st round he would destroy the whole max era ron

    joe had the great skill of stuck damage I call it once he had his person hurt they would freeze up like they couldnt move and get combos until they fell never seen anything like that before in the hw division even in other eras

    but like I said before if he had been in other eras he would be a lw so those punches wouldnt cause the same type of damage
     
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  14. janitor

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    The problem is that Lyle wasn't only stopped by Foreman, he was also stopped by other men, who were not even in the same ball park as Louis.

    I lean towards the idea the Foreman hit harder with a single punch, but it is impossible to prove.
     
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  15. janitor

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    Lynn Ball had the tools to beat Lyle, and he finished with a career record of 17-7-0.

    I get it that Lyle had seen better days, but even so!