Max Baer vs Tommy Morrison

Baer more skilled? Laughable

 

Which rarely happened with any efficiency or skill, so I guess Tommy might be okay.

 

Rarely happened? He has 51 KOs.

 

I didn't think I needed to preface my statement with "good quality opposition". He has a punchers chance of course, and could get the job done considering Tommy's deficiencies, but to say Baer's skills blows away Tommy's; along with some of gems littered throughout this thread, I have to frankly laugh and disagree. Baer wasn't more skilled than Tommy, and frankly it's not close.

 

Since when was Baer a crafty boxer?

I believe that Baer might win a footrace. I don't remember him using an angle on an opponent, ever. Maybe by accident, I suppose.

This I agree with. He did. But Baer was used to beating down little guys with not much of a punch. Even his best win, Schmeling, was at a ~15lb disadvantage and ploughed straight into him all night long. Morrison has at least 15lb on him, and is a massive puncher in addition to being more skilful. It's going to be Louis all over again.

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Frankly I think Old Foreman > Baer

I'm trying to see it:

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... naaaaahhhh. And this is a highlights package.

Baer couldn't pressure a statue.

 

Morrison had better skills I don't think that is debatable. Baer however had a great chin and a big punch both of which were poison to Tommy. If Tommy can't finish Max early he is in trouble no way around if. This isn't old Foreman this is peak Baer who was in better shape and had better reflexes. Tough matchup I think Baer survives and comes back from being down on the cards for a late stoppage

 

What I find interesting is that I'm the only guy referring to the actual footage in this thread.

That, to me, speaks more loudly than words as to who would win this.

 

Sometimes it is really just this simple.

 

If he didn't swing with such technical deficiencies, like a dad with his son at a fair, I might be more overly concerned. I'm honestly not convinced he could land very much on even an adequate boxer who's wary of his power.

 

Baer made a career out of beating people who were better technicians than him, in many cases much better.

Being a better technician guarantees nothing.

 

While I like the spirit of your post so many rusrbuckets and wilted tulips buzzed Tommy that a true devastating and proven puncher like Baer seems like a fait accompli.

 

both men could punch, Tommy learned to box a bit and proved it against an old Foreman but Max had the better chin of the two & it is in that area that perhaps causes the Tommy Morrison ship to sink. Who holds up the better? Max had the superior wiskers

 

He stopped/knocked out "good quality" opposition.

Carnera, Schmeling, Comiskey, Galento, Tuffy, and Levinsky were all top 10 fighters. Throw in Henney, Foord, & Campbell as other quality knockouts.

What quality fighters did Morrison knock out? Not a single top 10 caliber fighter. Joe Hipp is his best, with washed up versions of Ruddock, Tillis, Pinklon, and Truth.

Not sure why. Baer won plenty of decisions over good fighters in Farr, Rikso, Schaaf, and Levinsky. He easily out works Tommy if this goes the distance.

Morrison has only went 10 rounds...three times. One was a 12 round decision over a 45 year old Foreman where he was huffing and puffing from literally turning his back and running away, the other was a draw with Purritty in which he was dropped multiple times, the other isn't worth mentioning.

 

You don't have to be crafty to lure Morrison into a trap.

Baer was excellent at suckering opponents into following him and setting traps, either walking them into his right hand or spinning them into a corner or on the ropes. Baer was also proficient at disguising his right hand with a variety of techniques. I don't think these attributes would warrant a "crafty boxer" label, but they are what they are.

Baer uses lots of lateral movement.

Was he?

Comisky, Carnera, Galento, Schaaf, Levinsky, and Foord were not "little guys at all" in contrast to Baer.

Bear fought off the back foot for half of the fight and didn't pressure until the later stages.

Baer was fighting with two injured hands against Louis. And Louis is arguably the GOAT HW combination puncher.

Even if true, Morrison could not beat Baer the same way he did Foreman. Baer is faster on his feet than Morrison, Foreman was always 5 steps behind.

Braddock was a phoned injured performance from an injured fighter.

For Baer's best filmed performances I go with Comisky, Schemling, Foord, Levinski III, and Carnera.

 

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