Max Baer vs. Tony Galento

i dont think any of the fighters i named are obscure - all were decent contenders in their own right, although all had their limitations. There are people on here that think Baer would be competative against pretty much anybody but all the footage i have seen of him he looks bloody rubbish.
The Schmeling fight is often cited as Baer's best performance - it is perhaps his best result on paper but he still looked awful. As for Galento, tough man no doubt, but had zero fundamentals and would most likely have his license pulled in the modern era due to lack of skills. He makes Butterbean look like Wilfred Benitez

 

Yeah, let's focus on Baer vs Galento again instead of commenting other fights William comments... and calling Schmeling as crude as Baer, Galento or Braddock is ridiculous, he was better boxer than all you named Pat M...

 

People who think textbook skills always trump toughness, aggression, natural raw power and the craft of the 'dark arts' obviously haven't actually grasped the reality of this sport.
I've seen guys who box correct and pretty, get absolutely mauled by rough crude determined brawlers. I've seen guys win decisons doing nothing but fouling and occasionally proving their chins, against guys who were technically better but lacked the spirit and intensity to deal with reality.

The idea that Baer and Galento would be sub-4-round-fighter level is so far off the mark it's laughable.
It's just a silly statement that the trolls on this forum have been repeating for years, a silly theme of how bad the old-timers were, based on nothing real.
i suspect some of these people were complete failures as boxers and trainers and have a need to boost themselves by believing they could have been a contender in other eras.
It's amusing nonetheless.
Trolls will troll.

 

Lordy- no disrespect to Baer but with how he’s talked about you by some you would begin to think he was his eras Foreman... He really does not impress on film at all dare I say a wasted bit of potential despite his success.

 

One of the most unskilled fights you'll ever see.

 

This is vintage Pat M trolling.

Joe Savage's entire career :

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I'm taking Galento, whether he opts to box or slug.

 

And my God, could he box!

 

Yep, Joe Savage was the "throwback" fighter. The type Unforgiven thinks is as good as any.
Savage had all of the attributes that Unforgiven considers more important than boxing skills, he had, in Unforgiven's words, "toughness, aggression, natural raw power and the craft of the 'dark arts (whatever that is?)'", he was 42-0 with 42 knockouts in bare knuckle fights and had challenged all of the top boxers of the day. https://realcombatmedia.com/2015/09...-42-0-bare-knuckles-champ-joe-savage-who-won/

When Savage fought Cooper he found out that "toughness, aggression, natural raw power and the craft of the 'dark arts'" aren't enough. When Savage faced someone with balance, technique, and skill, there was a difference that people like Unforgiven don't comprehend. If it was just "toughness, aggression, natural raw power and the craft of the 'dark arts'" that made a fighter, you wouldn't need gyms, or trainers. Fundamentals and technique are important in all sports.

Anybody who has spent time around a gym has seen hundreds of "tough guys" come and go. The ones who believe that fundamentals and technique aren't important, don't understand real sports. Does "craft of the dark arts" have something to do with witch craft or is it a WWE term?

 

based on nothing real . That footage seems real to me and they both look bloody rubbish

 

Joe Savage isn't even a pro boxer, even at bareknuckle (which isn't a pro sport for decades). He's just your typica tough guy who never boxed in real for his entire life. You're comparing him to Max Baer who was a world champion - for a brief time but still nonetheless.

Even if you look at them, it's clear who is a professional athlete and who isn't... Pat M is the biggest troll on this site

 

You don't know that Bare Knuckle Boxing is a pro sport? https://www.bareknuckle.tv/ I know a couple of people who are fighting under contract tonight on a Bare Knuckle show in Mississippi who are planning on getting paid, maybe you should call them and let them know that BKB is not professional and that they aren't getting paid? You write with such bravado, but other than names you know nothing about boxing.

I thought you were just ignorant about the mechanics of boxing, but I underestimated you. Savage would be a good match up for most 1930s era heavyweights, but he is obviously out of his league with Cooper.

Savage is a professional boxer who fought a tough fighter in his pro debut, a guy much better than Baer or Galento. Galento is the level he should have been fighting in his debut, if things went well, he could fight Baer next.

 

That punch doesn't actually land.

 

Who exactly had Savage beaten to compare with Max Schmeling or Lou Nova?