Max Baer vs Wladimir Klitschko (old Boxing rules 1930)

true but ihes still goat. if you want to put down a fighter, then using the GOAT as a yardstick to put him down with is not convincing at all.

Its like saying spiderman is rubbish because superman destroys him. Do you get me? you need another yardstick, Fox1.

 

That Joe Louis is the G.O.A.T. is nothing more than your opinion. In any event he most certainly WAS NOT at the time he fought Baer.

 

Get Wlads sweaty ballz out of your mouth. I know you love them in there but take them out and re-think this.

The fashion in which Louis destroyed Primo was an assortment of upper body movement - dodging , slipping , bobbin , weaving , parrying - coupled with savage counter combinations of a two handed hook attack.

Show me the fight where Wlad is bending at the waist and dipping , parrying , slipping punches as a form of defence? Never mind coming forward with such intensity??

Wlad isn't like Louis is any way , more like the stiff upright Primera.

Take his clinch away from him and he's nothing. Like you saw in the Jennings fight. Without his holding all he could beat Jennings with was a jab. A jab!!!
Jennings was no better than Primo. At least Primo could punch.

All Jennings has his a long reach and he can't even use that to his benefit.
Look how Liston got great length on his shots. And look at Jennings who can't even turn a punch over correctly.

One guy was a great. The other guy had the technique of a club fighter.

Wlad had to hold onto this novice who brought nothing to the table so badly he had a point taken from him.
The fight exposed Wlad and left no doubt that a Liston would utterly mangle him.

 

I tend to agree with this breakdown.

 

If guys like Ross Purrity, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster could knock Klitschko out, it stands to reason that a prime, prepared Max Baer could turn the trick.

 

I'm only responding because you have too many posts to be a troll so you are stating your opinion .. Max Baer lost to every decent boxer he ever fought .. Farr, Braddock, Loughran, Risko, Schaaf and so on .. he had no clue how to fight a boxer .. Wlad has developed into one of the most dangerous boxer/punchers that ever lived. He had skill, intelligence, conditioning , speed and power over Baer .. I love Max as a character and do admit he could be a wild card and he might have been an intelligent match up with Wlad when he was at the nadir of his career but to me you match up these guys at their best and at their best I think Wlad takes him into the deep waters and then stops him ..

 

Wlad is white so I can see a case for Baer winning this fantasy fight.

 

You would be impressed with such in depth ****ysis.

Again, some of you need to follow a different sport or admit that you only use boxing as a starting point for your own fictional departures.

Wlad has barely lost a round in 8 years. Baer looks like a lost amateur on a lot of his film. That isn't just my response but I heard similar statements or insinuations to that fact regarding many, not all, of the old time heroes by people who make a living in the sport.

 

Bear had the intangibles of durability, stamina, athleticism, and power; and at his best he knew how to get the most out of these attributes by going for broke and fighting sloppy to get his man. He could outslug a lot of brawlers and overwhelm some good boxers...but he isn't beating Wlad.

 

Wlad was trailing on the cards when he stopped Calvin Brock and was losing to Williamson after only the 4th round before he quit.

Sometimes Baer would have only a few days off between fights. Bring him into todays world with state of the art two month long training camps and just two fights a year against ordinary men and he would be a world beater.

Put Wlad back into his day and he wouldn't have a career.

Mark Breland, Fred Jenkins amongst many others within the professional boxing world have all said Wlad has had the long years of success by fighting in Europe and being allowed commit as many fouls as he needs to stay on top.

Every time this guy fight somebody , the issue of his illegal tactics is raised. 'How are you going to combat his holding' etc etc

Wlad just got by Jennings in a proper ref'd fight and was blown away in 5 by Brewster in another.

Baer leathers him in the 1930s style of constant fighting for 3 mins per rounds with gloves made of solid cowhide.

 

Max went into the fight with a busted up right hand, he shattered it in the second, at the end of the round when he hitting Louis with a combo.

Max just stopped punching after that... of course Louis looked good hitting someone that could not hit back, and to his credit Koed him.......

this was Joes "Best" Win? Over an injured man?

 

Good ****ysis.

 

Nice to hear people just make stuff up out of thin air .. Actually Louios was behind at the time of the stoppage and fans booed the ref .. :nut

 

Not a well known fact, I will admit.

But, look it up.


Max always had hand problems, and had severely damaged it before the fight, it had not healed. LOOK it up before you discount it... I did an entire thread on this a while back.

Watch the fight and you will see when it happens, it is obvious to me anyway.

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He was leading 59-55 and 59-56 on the cards.

I'm just going to stop there. You probably have your own "magic cards" which say otherwise.

Again, the sport for you is more a departure into some fictional world of fantasy. I have no interest in that.