Max Kellerman: "I have yet to see a fight in which i thought marquez was beaten"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Addie, Sep 1, 2008.


  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    If you not here to discuss the topic, I'm asking you nicely to move on elsewhere yourself. Divac did not instigate this thread, I did, so he is quite justified to bring his opinions on the Pacquiao and Marquez fights in here without being scrutinized.

    What is your opinion on Juan Manuel Marquez?
     
  2. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,268
    0
    Oct 28, 2007
    Even if you talk about it from Now till 2100. Records don't change buddy! It's the in record books! I have no idea how you can change history :huh

    The record stays the same!

    Too bad divac, you are still living in the would have.. could have.. world..and you are not ever aware of it! :hey
     
  3. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,268
    0
    Oct 28, 2007
    I'm not into opinions coz I'll always have a diff opinion with you and divac. I like facts. Now, I can continue but I'll be stealing this thread.
    If you want facts I'll give you facts!
     
  4. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,268
    0
    Oct 28, 2007
    From the very start it's an OPINION.. JMM is the greatest featherweight!
    How can the greatest FEATHERWEIGHT have a rather luckluster resume?!

    If you take out his W over MAB in his latter part of the career what does the GREATEST FEATHERWEIGH have in his achievements? or QUALITY wins for that matter?!... and you call him the greatest?!

    You can call him one of the most technically gifted boxer in the said weight division but calling him the GREATEST?!
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    I was counting on you having a different opinion than me and Divac. I couldn't careless what you said, I'd just rather you give us your opinion on the topic at hand rather than making comments about Divac. Leave it out.
     
  6. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,744
    0
    Aug 14, 2008
    :good great point.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    It's a good point in the context of the official scoring, but plays little factor in how the public and ringside observors scored the fight. For instance, I scored the opening round 10-6, and still had Marquez dominating the majority of the fight and in doing so rallying back for a one point win.
     
  8. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,744
    0
    Aug 14, 2008
    Its a good point meaning Pac won the fight and it wasnt a draw. I respect your scored card tho'... :good
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    That is exactly what I just said. :good According to the judges, if no mistakes were made, Pacquiao won the fight.

    With no mistakes, according to Max Kellerman, Myself, and a lot of ringside observors, Juan Manuel won the fight.
     
  10. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,744
    0
    Aug 14, 2008
    Yeah , sometimes fans and commentators see the fight different from the judges.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    I think the majority of the time, they do.
     
  12. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,744
    0
    Aug 14, 2008
    yeah. I agree
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

    41,814
    5
    Apr 14, 2007
    so do you also believe that marquez is the best/greatest featherweight of this era (over hamed, barrera, morales and pacquiao) just like kellerman said?
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    401
    Jun 14, 2006
    I don't believe Juan Manuel Marquez should be considered greater than Barrera and Morales, but I feel Marquez to be superior to Pacquiao and Hamed. Morales and Barrera have far greater resumes than Juan Manuel, and you could argue so does Hamed and Pacquiao. The difference being for me is that I had Marquez winning both fights, and Hamed was never in the same class those three. Had he fought any one of those three, they would have all done the same thing that Barrera done. Hamed was to vunerable to getting hit, and was not nearly as ellusive as people suggest. He got tagged in every fight he was in, even at domestic level.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

    41,814
    5
    Apr 14, 2007
    i don't know if marquez should be the greatest featherweight of this era. he is a great featherweight but the greatest of this era? no.