Max Kellerman: USADA Is A Smoke Show; Allows PED Users To Get Away...

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  1. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From what I read in that article, Floyd was involved in a while lot more than saline solution.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    If he failed at the pre-fight physical, the fight would have been cancelled.

    The reason a retroactive TUE exists is to take care of acute conditions, like dehydration. That’s the point.
     
  3. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Stop playing dumb. Floyd was 3 pounds from the welterweight limit 30 days out and has never had trouble making weight. How did Floyd become severely dehydrated? Fight week is mostly staying loose and completing media obligations. Why didn't he drink a glass of water? If he needed 750 ml of IV fluids, why didn't he follow protocol and go to the hospital?

    After the weigh in, Floyd had food, watched TV, relaxed, and bet on basketball. Oh yeah, he came back to life from severe dehydration in between.

    :lol:
     
  4. deyell

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    A simple dehydration is not enough to get a TUE for an IV, then you should drink a glass of water. You have to be severely dehydrated (to the point it is life threatening) to get that. And that doesn't just happen out of the blue, there should have been signs on that day. If a fighter is dehydrated, his blood pressure is likely to be low and his pulse rate high. Mayweather’s blood pressure and pulse rate were normal for an athlete. When a ring doctor tells a fighter to open his mouth the doctor is also checking the mucous membrane lining inside the fighter’s mouth for signs of dehydration. Furthermore, if a fighter is dehydrated, there are additional signs of that condition in his skin turgor. Neither of these conditions was noted by the examining doctor. Why should anyone believe that Mayweather was dehydrated? There is no proof.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All the posters that posted in this thread that are defending USADA are the same douches that support IV use in homes and BS magical unicorn TUEs. You know, if it hasn't been obvious in the past. :fufu
     
  6. NoNeck

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    Source?
     
  7. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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  8. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, that’s a corticosteroid. While it’s classified as a steroid it is not an anabolic steroid. It is used to treat inflammation, not give you more power and endurance.

    Of course you knew that but you’d rather just say steroid to pad your weak ass argument to those who don’t know any better between a corticosteroid and a real performance enhancer.
     
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  9. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    We need @Pimp C

    He can explain how Floyd came to be severely dehydrated.

    :lol:
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Who can train harder, a person who experiences superhuman suppression of inflammation after training or a person who experiences normal inflammation after training?

    I can address the rest of you haters after work.
     
  11. Bigdog2002

    Bigdog2002 Active Member Full Member

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    I used to tell people Floyd was on the sauce even before these articles came about! He cameback stronger from his retirement! He was in the sauce since the Marquez fight for sure!
     
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  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dude, he was raised by a man who ran a chain of testosterone treatment clinics.
     
  14. NoNeck

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    If you want to have a more beleiveable argument, you should claim that Floyd had an unnecessary IV administered because he wanted to rehydrate effectively but was in violation because his state of dehydration was not severe enough.

    Other arguments don't hold any weight because PED use after a weigh in is rare, he had already passed tests, and if USADA were in his pocket, he wouldn't need an IV to pass a drug test.