Max Kellerman: USADA Is A Smoke Show; Allows PED Users To Get Away...

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  1. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I know VADA don't carry out tests themselves and employ other agencies to do so. But I don't know who. So I asked a question....

    Your gun may be smoking but you're firing blanks at this target....
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They don't use any agencies as no agencies do the test themselves nor collect samples themselves. They all use professional collection companies, duh. By asking what you are asking you trying to act smart and pull one on people by implying USADA was doing the collection or testing for VADA.

    Clearly you are fkn clueless.
     
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    You see how this works? I ask a question and get an answer. Well done. Do you know the name of these companies?
     
  4. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Neither VADA nor USADA does their own testing as they do not own medical labs. What they do is contract with specimen collections agencies and then send the samples to WADA-accredited labs. The main difference is that VADA requires carbon isotope ratio testing (CIR) for every sample and USADA does not. VADA simply provides the test results to the promoters/commissions. VADA's the gold standard. They catch people left and right. No surprise Floyd rejected VADA testing.

    [url]https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/science-medical/laboratories/accredited-laboratories#region-americas[/url]
     
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  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    High caliber answer....
     
  6. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep and USADA is not olympic style as the fighter themselves determines when testing starts and ends.. so top level fighters can ensure they cycle off before testing begins.
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    It's exactly what I said. If you take corticosteroids, you can train harder, no issue. Quicker recovery. That's why it's a banned substance. You reading a list of possible adverse effects won't change that.

    Are you going to say anabolic steroids aren't PEDs because they raise LDL? High LDL is bad.

    Saline is hydration. Not really comparable to steroids. And both had TUE's.
     
  8. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

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    So why doesn't the governing bodies mandate VADA for all the fights they sanction?
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Because Tom Schwarz is the number 2 contender.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    There's no way he's going to read all of that.
     
  11. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather did nothing CLOSE to Olympic style testing....:duh
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arum says he was afraid of needles... Do you understand how quoting a person works?
     
  13. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NoClue...
     
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  14. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Of course not, that article is pure ether to Mayweather fanboys just like Hauser's first piece on the IV scandal.
     
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  15. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no pro athlete gets busted unless their particular sport wants them busted. then it is just a matter of time, since there is no such thing as a "clean" pro athlete anymore. not for decades now.