Max Kellerman.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by klion22, Apr 28, 2016.


  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He wasn't a full on political commentator like a lot of the pundits you see on CNN or Fox, he was more like a pop culture social critic with occasional biting observations about politicians, but he leans left like me, so I'm not sure if you'd agree with him 100% but he is un-PC which you probably would like. Here's the only snippet I could find of him on YT.
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  2. adokei

    adokei Well-Known Member Full Member

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  3. kenneth86

    kenneth86 Active Member Full Member

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    I used to like him a lot but he is an hbo fan boy the agressive fighter always wins in hbos mind even if they come forward and swing at the air they win rounds.

    willy pep won a round without throwing a punch.
    hbo would have scored it 10-8 for the other guy for "effective aggression"
     
  4. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was it? lol I was expecting a full on Ben Shapiro-like debate or something haha :lol:
     
  5. coltaine

    coltaine Member Full Member

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    he really lacks charisma as a commentator, he comes across as a bit of an HBO shill at times (tbf they all do, i'm sure it's an obligation) and he's a stiff, awkward interviewer, but i do enjoy him as an ****yst and a genuinely enthusiastic boxing nerd.
     
  6. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Good commentator with a passion for the game.
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But he will call it as he sees it.
     
  8. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My sport is basketball. And I know the game well. And it would be hard for me to take anyone seriously talk about the game who never really competed at a high level. You have to be there in the trenches year after year to pick up sudden nuances.

    I think Max is great on camera. He is composed, well thought out and gives very good interviews. His Face Offs are also very good. I also listen to his daily sports podcast here in Los Angeles. But I don't respect his opinions when it comes to the Xs and Os of boxing.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :lol: Yeah that's all I could find, they cut that one off way too early, most of his segments or debates were around 5 or 10 minutes though.
     
  10. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't have to play basketball to be able to know what a team's, player's strengths and weaknesses are. What a team needs/has.

    If playing was vital in taking opinions seriously then majority of commentators and front offices of teams would be considered invalid.

    Truth be known (and not for all cases, but from most I've seen) the best commentators didn't play sports. Reason? Because they went to college to be a sport commentator. They learned the proper etiquette in broadcast journalism through years of practice/study which makes them sound better and know the proper language when commentating versus someone who only played the sport professionally and is commentating after he retired.

    You'll notice that in most cases the play-by-play is someone who went to college for journalism for years without pro sport experience and the color commentators are the ones who played the game. They're both still equally qualified to speak on the sport, reason why they're both used.

    But that's just my opinion. :good
     
  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is going back some years huh. I remember the Around the Horn days...

    http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...-The-Horn-Host-Max-Kellerman-Out-At-ESPN.aspx
     
  12. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, most play by play guys fall into this category but the expert commentators are almost always former players or played at some level. Max is considered the latter. Yeah, it's true most people can see obvious strengths/weaknesses of teams but I'm talking about the sudden nuances that the average layman just don't know.

    For example, I never stepped in the ring before. And I am not going to pretend to know the sport as well as I could if I had actually fought. I really like Max. He's a great guy and does a lot for HBO. I just don't respect his Xs and Os commentary.That's for guys like RJ and Paulie.
     
  13. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Jim is a white man.
     
  14. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kellerman loves Andre Ward and he isn't an aggressive monster.
     
  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    In 35 years of following boxing, I've seen a lot of boxing commentators, and Kellerman is easily the worst. And it's no surprise, this clown was plucked from obscurity in the late 90s, never having worked as a boxing journalist or participant, as just about any other commentator you could name had. Why? Because of his wealthy family's connections to key players in the boxing industry.

    Kellerman's lack of grounding in the sport - never having actually worked as a boxing writer, like great commentators such as Al Bernstein or Steve Farhood, or as a particpant, such as former trainers like Emmanuel Steward - is glaring and obvious in his frequently idiotic questions of fighters in post-fight interviews and in his rather limited insight into fights when they are going on. The sooner HBO kicks this clown to the curb, the better.