Max Schemling Replaces Gene Tunney...

i say worse with both because he was KO'ed 5 times and dempsey is a pure savage in the ring he was there to destory you and i feel that greb would be to slick and quick for him

 

I heard Schmeling was doing well in his exhibitions with Dempsey but in them Dempsey was even older. Still I think Schmeling at his best would be able to beat the Dempsey Tunney fought.
Against Greb I don´t know, there´s no film of this guy.

 

Schmeling knocks out jack dempsey badly. Tunney and sharkey both easily toyed with the far past his prime jack dempsey. IMO the 1927 version of dempsey is very overated, sharkey godfrey tunney were all better than dempsey by 27.

 

Schmeling beats Dempsey much the same.

 

I think Dempsey would catch Max for a stoppage,the German wasnt as elusive as Tunney and would be there to be hit,Max might do well against Greb with his short hard counters ,but Greb's speed would probably see him through for a dec win

 

Dempsey was starting to show rust but he did not have to chase Scmeling like he did Tunney....Who could stay on his toes like Tunney ,Ali, Quick Tillis but Tunney had some power as well

 

I think Schmeling beats Dempsey if he can get past the first round or two.

Schmeling might actually do better against Greb than Tunney as he brings a bigger punch to the table. If he times Greb as he did Walker, I think he stops him.

 

Schmeling has a good chance of winning, but, because it's not Tunney in there now, a greater chance of losing.

Max did not move about so much, clinch as well as Tunney or was as sturdy, which are big factors. Dempsey may eat the big right hand, but Max will have to take more punishment in turn and try to live with Dempsey's rough house ways.

Dempsey did better against Sharkey than he is given credit for, and while he could be rocked, he was a very hard man to break.

Ted Spoon would put the money on a 1927 Dempsey to punch a hole in Schmeling after grinding his way past the big shots in a mid rounds shootout.

Stationary targets against Dempsey's firepower are not safe bets.

 

I disagree ... the Dempsey of the second Tunney fight, while past his best days, was still a decent fighter. I think Max did get hit and was not especially fast with hands or feet ... Dempsey was not a guy to be defeated by a surgeon ... Tunney was lightning fast and kept Dempsey off balance all night and still almost lost the second fight ... I like Dempsey over Schmeling as Max often underperformed ...

I simply do not know what he does with Greb but can say that no one had it easy with him ...

 

I know this vid. But sparring is not fighting.

 

I think you're selling Schmeling a bit short by reducing him to a "stationary target". Stationary targets don't beat down the greatest puncher of all time 12 rounds long. Sure, he wasn't a runner like Tunney, but his defence was pretty good. He had a great sense of seeing and using openings after blocking/slipping the opponents attack, and Dempsey would give him plenty. I think he nails Dempsey with a straight right counter around the 5th that Jack doesn't see and takes the momentum from there to a stoppage win later in the fight. He didn't impress me against Sharkey at all.

 

Max was not just a stationary target but he was a stationary target; far less equipped to subdue Dempsey's physicality’s and power than Tunney or Sharkey were.

Sharkey had the inside strength and hectic style to give a rusty Dempsey problems; the dangerous, but cautious Schmeling would prove an object easier to surmount for Dempsey.

 

so max was less equiiped to subdue a rusted old dempseys physicality and power, yet he was equipped enough to manhandle a younger better joe louis?? I dont buy it

Max had the timing and punching power sharkey lacked to knock jack out. dempsey was very hittable by 1927, sharkey tagged him often and cleanly as did tunney. Schmeling had better timing and power than both, not to mention schmeling is alot stronger than you say. His tale of the tape measurements were bigger than sharkey and tunneys.

I dont know, I think a old rusted swarmer would play right into schmelings hands, because dempsey didnt have the speed or timing anymore to consistently tag schmeling, and he didnt have the defense to get away from schmelings crisp accurate punches.

I like schmeling by mid round TKO

 

Dempsey would lose to Schmeling, if he didn't knock him out early in the fight. Dempsey's swarming style would wear him out early, much the way it did when he demolished Jess Willard after knocking him down 7 times in the first round. He fought on, but was gassed. Schmeling was far more technical and could withstand punishment better, he would beat him in the later rounds after Dempsey wore himself out trying to knock him out early.