Max Schmeling: 73 Right Hands Less One

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Schmeling won the second Sharkey fight rather decisively had the scoring been on the level. Given that win he has a very impressive prime run. Douglas is underrated but his resume is not quite as well rounded. As for the Baer fight, Baer was a big heavy for the day and carried a huge punch it was a bad match up for Schmeling. However the fight was still competitive and the Uhlan managed on two occasions to wobble Baer with well timed right hands.
    Schmeling had several brilliant performances against quality opposition. Louis, Sharkey 2, Walker, Hamas 2. He adapted well to a variety of styles and the best way to defeat him was to blitz him out early before he turned it into a chess match.
     
  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Brilliant video. :good

    I'm glad someone has actually put the effort in and shared this great ****ysis, and produced such a great film and RESOURCE.

    I've heard time and again the simplistic tale of Schmeling exploiting some blatant amateurish flaw in a "green" Louis - which is a crude simplification and actually mostly inaccurate and untrue.
    It's one of those ways of almost "explaining away" the result.
    I think this video does a great job and leaves nothing much more left to say. :good
     
  3. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for posting. I remember talking to Joe Rein one time, and he compared Charley Burley to Max Schmeling...in how they disguised their right hands.

    Cheers. Great stuff.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another thought is, unless Schmeling was just have a really, really bad night vs Baer,.....then Max Baer can't be the totally unskilled, crude rube that many posters make him out to be.
     
  5. gentleman jim

    gentleman jim gentleman jim Full Member

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    Videos such as this one should put to rest the notion that scientific boxing didn't come around until the 60's. The old timers knew how to fight!
     
  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    True.
    Max Baer had plenty of skills, tricks and nous, he just wasn't a pure boxer or a refined 'textbook' type of fighter.
    Nobody wins that many fights, beats top contenders and becomes champion of the world without boxing skills.
    Baer did a hell of a lot of effective manhandling and spinning his opponents and knew how to disrupt the rhythm and pace of a fight - those things are UGLY but they take SKILL.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Plus sometimes aggression, power and punch resistance are attributes enough to close any skills gap if they are pronounced enough.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You're right friend. Those guys weren't as bad as people make them out to be.

    Watch Vitali vs Peter given the ol school , early 90's treatment on utube. He looks exactly like Baer , Primera and those guys
     
  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Video was a little long for my tastes. 20 minutes? I tapped out after 7 1/2.
     
  10. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Just type Di ck.
     
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    People talk about the 1930s being such an awful batch of heavyweight champions but a prime Joe Louis (who was proberbly the GOAT) lost to one of them. Fairly and squarely in my book. You really cannot dismiss any decade of champions be it now or 1980.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks again for your thread contribution dinovelvet,....it's quality material like that which makes a boxing forum an educational experience and worth devoting time to.:good
     
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    o kay.