max schmeling vs evander holyfield

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  1. MadcapMaxie

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    Holyfield takes it buts its more competitive than alot are making out
     
  2. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I find it incredible that so many are making a 186-pound 12-0 Holyfield a favourite over a 1936 Schmeling.
     
  3. bodhi

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    And Orlin Norris is Top10 p4p. :lol:


    Why? Boxing started either with SRR or Ali or somewhere in the 80s, depends on definition. Everything before was crap.
     
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  4. he grant

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    An interesting fight .. I think Holyfield was too gifted and had that incredible chin but who knows ? I'm just not sure Max would be busy enough ... however a very competitive bout ...
     
  5. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    The best Holyfield would press Max........Would be difficult to Max land any of those counter-punches with the right with Holyfield all over him.....because Max wasn´t too fast IMO....Holyfield was faster and threw better combinations !
     
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  6. edward morbius

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    I think this list of Schmeling failures is misleading.

    Most thought he actually deserved the decision in the loss to Sharkey.

    Most thought he actually deserved the decision in the draw with Uzcudun.

    The first loss to Hamas was legit, but Max gave Hamas such a beating in the return that he ended his career.

    That leaves Max Baer. Okay.

    I think the more experienced Schmeling edges the young Holyfield in a close one. Of course the juiced Holyfield of latter years would be too much for Max who did not have the option of supplements.
     
  7. greynotsoold

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    Schmeling out-foxed Louis. Louis was a better fighter than Holyfield, especially Holyfield in his 12th fight. Much higher boxing IQ than Holyfield and the wisdom of Blackburn as well and still beaten by Schmeling and a brilliant tactical fight. Max would school Holyfield as well; outsmart him and stop him late.
     
  8. Legend X

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    :lol:

    Yeah, I didn't think of that.


    I should correct my previous statement, Holyfield was 11-0 , not 12-0.
    And people think that Holyfield beats a guy who a 24-0 Joe Louis couldn't beat. :patsch
     
  9. Legend X

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    :deal

    :good
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    Even a cruiserweight Holyfield, would have been considered a heavyweight by the standards of the thirties. He showed early on that he could go 15 rounds in an all out war with a great like Qawi, was in phenomenal condition, and had extensive amateur pedigree. I think his chances of beating Schmeling were still pretty strong, but Max's experience and tricky style would make this up for grabs.
     
  11. frankenfrank

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    and if he isn't then he's just a few (1-5) places below it .

    Not at all , boxing died when Holmes retired , with d sole lights shining out of Hopkins & Lewis .
     
  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    while ur at it would u mind adressing this ?:
    Max Diekmann , Larry Gains , Gipsy Daniels , Max Baer stopped him b4 he even faced Louis , then he also had 2 decision losses and 4 draws and who knows how many robbery and foul wins in Germany , also prior 2 knocking out Joe Louis . Schmelling was crap and Louis was KOd by him .
    chmelling was also 31 and smaller than Louis by d time of their 1st fight which Schmelling won by KO , yet 2 yrs later Louis KOd a 33 yrs old Schmelling and there was never a rubber match . Great Joe Louis ..
     
  13. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    just like he did gipsy daniels , larry gains , Max Baer and co ..
    Schmelling does what Tyson couldn't in 2 fights out of 2 , Lewis couldn't in 2 out of 2 against quite a shot Evander , and Bowe couldn't in 2 out of 3 and possibly managed in d 3rd due 2 Holyfield having Hepatitis and being past his prime .
    I'd mention Ruiz as well because Ruiz >> Schmelling , just not 4u homoerotic romanticists .
     
  14. The_Rock

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    I think I would favor Holyfield.
     
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  15. gentleman jim

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    Evander at his best takes this one. Schmeling was good but I think his upset of Louis tends to get him overrated. Holyfield had too much of everything for Max. Holy by ko around the 7th or 8th.