Max Schmeling .Vs. Jim Braddock

I would think so, Schmeling was on a all time high after the Louis bout, and would not lose again, until the Louis rematch I belive.

Braddock imo is not on the same level as Schmeling, and unlike Baer, would take this fight in shape and not clown around about it. I think Braddock's 2 year break would play a part in the out come also.

 

i think schmeling would of stopped braddock late with a series of powerful rights.what i find interesting about this is if this fight had actually happened and schmeling had won hitler and co would of bank rolled schmeling and probably all challengers would of had to go to germany so would louis of got a fair shot in a return ,remember at this time in germany jewish , gypsy and afro-german boxers had recently been told they would no longer be allowed to box and had thier licences taken away.

 

hitler and co would of bent the rules to allow louis to fight without a doubt could you imagine the nazi's letting it be a fair fight louis would of been drugged in some way. money talked in boxing then as now so yes i can see hitler stoping at nothing to keep the tittle in germany what you must remember is that the nazi's saw boxing as very important in getting fighting men ready and restoring german male pride after the first world war defeat

 

Schmeling would not have been strip. We taking of the era would the heavyweight champ can take a few years break lol.

Also with Schmeling as the white champ, the color bar would not have folded.

 

before the nazis came to power the colour bar was not that enforced in germany especially compared to america in the heavyweight division

 

I think that Schmeling would in all probability have beaten Braddock.

Schmeling was the most consistent of the champions between Tunney and Louis. He was meticulous in his preparations even when he was up against second teir opposition. He would not have underestimated Braddock or taken him lightly.

Braddock probably fell within the stylistic parameters that would allow Schmeling to execute his mirror and countepunch strategy.

Add Braddocks recent inactivity and you have a Schmeling win.

 

Just remember the german-gypsy boxer Johann Wilhelm "Rukelie" Trollmann. He was forced to stant toe to toe even though he was boxer or he wouldn't have been allowed to fight, when he won the German lhw crown only got it because the audienced nearly got violent because the nazis denied it him - nevertheless they took it away from him the next year. Just a few years ago his grandson got it back from the German boxing association. Rukelie got killed in a conzentration camp in he 40s.

But with Louis it would have been different. Another Schmeling win in Germany would have been big and underlined their race theories right before heir eyes. Also they were sure Schmeling would beat Louis in the second fight and dropped him when he lost. The fight would have happened, I'pretty sure.

On the fight. I don't think it would be so easy. Braddock was nearly at his best back then. He didn't fight for 2 years, Schmeling was no Baer when it comes to the question if a fighter should be taken serious and he would have watched films of Braddock to analyse him. But Braddock would be game and put up a good effort, like he did against Louis, but in the end would have to succumb to Schmeling.

 

trollmann's story from what little i have read is very sad in 38 he was arrested and when released was sterilized and shot to death in a concentration i think in 43

there is no way the german government would of taken any chances of there man dropping the tittle and all tittle fights for schmeling would of been in germany

on the fight i cant remember saying it would be easy for schmeling

 

I am not sure how well smothering tactics would work because the Schmeling plan tended to work well against oponents who pressed the fight. Hamas, Neusell and Heauser all got beaten up prety badly trying to do this.

 

I have always been convinced that Max Schmeling would have ridden the crest of the wave of his amazing upset of Joe Louis..the strategic and tactical masterpiece of his career, no matter how brutally avenged by Louis, and would have replicated his form in part to completely dominate Jim Braddock and stop him in the latter rounds, somewhere between 12 and 14. This Max would have been a hill to high to climb for Braddock, and would have been a serious, no nonsense adversary, unlike Maxie Baer was. Jim would start of determined and purposefully, but would have been figured out by the German and the same barrage of counter right hands, served up as counterpunches, would have taken their toll. Schmeling lost so much momentum in the two years after the Louis upset, and frankly, all politics aside (thanks to Der Fuhrer), Max was royally screwed by Braddocks people, and the American public didn't seem to mind at all. Schmeling, in any other era, in a more sane time of history, would have been the ONLY real qualified challernger for any heavyweight champion, after the tremendous upset of the once thought invincible Brown Bomber. Schmeling would have concocted a perfect game plan for dealing with Braddock, and after Joe Louis, what the hell did he have to fear? If they fought, like I said, the key to Schmeling's victory would have been the methodical, intelligent utilization of that sneaky right hand counter of his, and unlike the wildly thrown bombs that Baer was known to throw, and often as not to great effect, Schmelings rights would have been accurate and well timed, and he would have worn Braddock down to a nub, finishing him off somewhere between 12 and 14..I'll say that after a knockdown in the 8th or 9th, Braddock would have eaten a steady diet of rights, and would have been unable to answer the bell for the 14th...and it would have been purely the decision of his corner and perhaps the referee, with Jim of course, wanting to go out on his shield, but to no avail. Schmeling tko 14 Braddock. The victory, of course, would have been a collosal propaganda coup for Hitler and Nazi Germany, and would have been most unpalatable for the free world...with a great effort made afterwards to establish an American avenger, perhaps Max Baer, the one time conqueror of Schmeling, who waqs itching to go to Nazi Germany and repeat his ko of the other Max, and to spit in the face of Hitler by doing so, and probably with his Mogen David star emblazoned on his trunks...and then there would be Joe Louis, vying for revenge, and this would set up a match, and eliminator, between Louis and Baer...and it may have inspired Baer to do better vs Louis than he actually did in '34....it's a fascinating subject, all this is...a bunch of "what if's".