Maxim Dadashev dies from injuries sustained

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  1. NoNeck

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  2. divac

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    With all due respect to the family of Maxim, there is no way a doctor can say with certainty when the stroke occurred when it relates to if it happened during or after the fight.
    The only way to point to a stroke occurring during a fight and the fight continueing is if its video evident that the fighter was having trouble moving a particular limb. That if it looked like the fighter was dragging a leg or having trouble lifting an arm up.
    I didn't see the fight, but I don't think that was the case here.
     
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    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Are you kidding me?? those *******s should be in jail!! what the F!
     
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  4. The Akbar One

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    What difference did it make McGirt still stopped it, as he should have.
     
  5. divac

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    My beef with McGirt is him putting Maxim in the situation where its him (Maxim) deciding he's had enough.

    The way I'm reading it, Maxim's body language is letting McGirt know, "yes, I'm hurting, I'm done!"
    But like most warriors they just refuse to verbalize it.
    Countless number of times fighters verbalize "I fight to the end!"
    "You better put me out, cause I'll never submit!"

    This is how I feel about it, if you're the trainer and you plan on stopping the fight no matter what, then you don't ask your fighter for permission to stop the fight. You just don't box your fighter in that way and make it look like it was the fighters decision to quit because that type of a stigma a fighter has to live with for the rest of his life. That type of stigma future opponents use against you in lead up's to other fights calling you a quitter.
    That's my beef with McGirt!
     
  6. NoNeck

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    That is false information. A stroke can cause a wide range of symptoms, not limited to use of limbs.
     
  7. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    This was very sad news. Knowing he was fighting to make enough money to get his family over to America. R.I.P, and prayers for his wife and daughter.
     
  8. divac

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    How do you come up to the conclusion that I'm giving false information?

    Absolutely there are other symptoms other than limb mobility, like weakness, numbness on any part of the body, facial droop, memory loss, confusion, slurred speech, balance issues, muscle stiffness, involuntary eye movements...…..

    Would be interesting to find out when the doctor thinks Maxim showed signs of stroke. Which round?

    What I'm saying is that there is no way of knowing if Maxim suffered a stroke during the fight and continued unless someone in that corner told the doctor, "this, this, and that was happening to Maxim during the fight" and if that's the case, shame on the cornermen for not doing something about it during the fight.
     
  9. NoNeck

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    I don't know that he did show any signs of stroke. What you're saying now is different from in the other post.

    If he spit out water because he couldn't swallow that would be proof of stroke, but I don't know if that's why he refused water.
     
  10. The Ogdoad

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    He wasn't letting him continue. He just didn't seem to be comfortable with the situation. Hence that conversation.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Go back and read what I previously posted and point out what about it is false?
     
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    …….and did Maxim refuse water or was unable to digest it?
    Not being able to swallow is certainly a sign of stroke and at the very least during a boxing match something to be concerned about.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    “The only way to point to a stroke occurring during a fight and the fight continueing is if its video evident that the fighter was having trouble moving a particular limb. That if it looked like the fighter was dragging a leg or having trouble lifting an arm up.”
     
  14. NoNeck

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    Refused
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you saying McGirt wasn't comfortable with taking it upon himself to stop the fight?