Maxim Vlasov vs Joe Smith Jr prediction thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by heerko koois, Apr 5, 2021.

Maxim Vlasov or Joe Smith Jr ?

Poll closed Apr 11, 2021.
  1. Maxim Vlasov

  2. Joe Smith jr

  1. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    Vlasov on points ( Close maybe a SD )
  2. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 26, 2006
  3. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Aug 31, 2016
    Initially went with Smith via decision, but due Vlasov having Covid I got Joe by late KO now.
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  4. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 24, 2005
    Vlasov is a skilled operator, but if he intends to go to war with Joe, he's getting drilled and stopped at some point. The pride of Long Island is strong as an ox, hits like a mule, and continues to refine his craft.

    Smith by mid to late stoppage (Rds 7-10).
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  5. sasto

    sasto Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 5, 2020
    I have the sense Vlasov is better, but Smith is stronger and has the home field advantage. I think that will be enough but this should be entertaining regardless.
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

    Nov 23, 2013
    Joe will be the first man to stop Vlasov. Continuing the pattern set by The Irish Bomber.
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  7. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    If Smith cant stop a recovered Covid19 patient then he is not the elite 175lber people think he is

    Tbh I just want to see Beterbiev knock Smith's tiny little head off his shoulders.
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Vlasov is really good but he looked stronger and more impressive up at CW than he does down at LHW to me and the fact that the fight is in the US and he had Covid doesn't bode well for his chances. But even if he hadn't contracted Covid and the fight was on neutral turf it would still be a very tough fight for him because Smith is a beast who hits like a truck, has the strength, toughness and engine of a truck and like a truck is also difficult to stop from rolling right over you once he gets going. But stylistically Vlasov should pose him problems and Smith acknowledges that himself. If Vlasov is at full strength it should be a great fight but I favour Smith to grind him down and stop him late albeit I wouldn't be surprised if Vlasov outpointed him either if he's fully recovered because he's got a very awkward slick style.

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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

    Nov 23, 2013
    I don't get that at all, I've thought Joe has a huge head in terms of width, almost like a lion.
  10. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    going with smith late tko
  11. Surrix

    Surrix Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
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    Boxer looks powerful and tough if I base on his resume.
    I think he will win this one.
  12. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 27, 2010
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009

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    Light heavyweight contender Joe Smith Jr. had a chance to fight for a world title in March 2019 and got routed, but he believes he learned an important lesson that night that he plans to carry into his second opportunity to win a 175-pound belt.

    Smith will challenge Maxim Vlasov for the vacant WBO light heavyweight title — the one vacated by Canelo Alvarez soon after he knocked out Sergey Kovalev to win it November 2019 — in the main event of the Top Rank Boxing on ESPN card on Saturday (ESPN/ESPN Deportes/ESPN+, 10 p.m. ET) at the Osage Casino in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where the number of spectators will be limited to about 800. The card will be Top Rank’s first outside of the MGM Grand conference center bubble in Las Vegas since June, when it began putting on shows without spectators because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    In the co-feature, heavyweight up-and-comer Efe Ajagba (14-0, 11 KOs), 26, a 2016 Nigerian Olympian fighting out of Houston, will face Atlanta native Brian Howard (15-4, 12 KOs), 40, in a 10-rounder.

    Smith-Vlasov was originally scheduled for Feb. 13 in Las Vegas, but Vlasov tested positive for Covid-19 prior to the weigh-in, forcing a postponement. But Smith took it in stride, going through with his planned wedding the following week.

    “After I found out I wasn’t fighting I took the week off. I had my wedding,” Smith said on a video call with boxing media on Monday. “Enjoyed my wedding and jumped right back into (training). I worked out hard for the last couple of weeks and the last week I’ve just been maintaining and sharpening up all my skills.”

    A victory will likely send Smith into a three-belt unification fight with unified champion Artur Beterbiev later in the year.

    In Smith’s first title bout almost two years ago, Dmitry Bivol, the slicker, quicker and more technical boxer, befuddled Smith en route to a one-sided unanimous decision victory, 119-109, 119-109 and 118-110, to retain his title.

    It was then that Smith and his career-long trainer Jerry Capobianco, who also trained Smith when he was an amateur, realized that while they did not have to make wholesale changes to Smith’s game their eyes were certainly opened to the need to make a few refinements.

    Smith had always relied upon a plow-ahead, all-out aggressive pressure style. It was that fan-friendly way of fighting that was such a key to upset wins over Andrzej Fonfara by first round knockout in his coming out party in 2016 and an even more shocking eighth-round knockout of the legendary Bernard Hopkins – whom he literally knocked out of the ring to send him into retirement — later in 2016.

    The style was working again in his next fight in 2017 when Smith dropped longtime contender Sullivan Barrera in the first round, but he eventually lost a 10-round decision after fighting from the second round on with a badly broken jaw that ultimately required surgery. Smith returned from the jaw injury for a quick first-round knockout of journeyman Melvin Russell in June 2018, which set him for the opportunity to face Bivol.

    Smith and Capobianco did not mope around after the Bivol loss. They went about subtlety refining his tactics and it paid off with a pair of significant victories in 2020.

    “With Bivol it was experience (for me),” Smith told The Ring. “He is an all-around great fighter. I learned I just needed to sharpen up on a few things, work on a little more movement, a little more footwork and just being a little more busy and not always looking for the big shot.

    “That’s what I’ve been working on and it’s been improving and working in the two fights I’ve had since. I was just coming forward with (Bivol) too much rather than taking a second and trying to pick some shots here or there.”

    Smith employed his adjustments and fought very well in both of the fights he had after losing to Bivol. As the underdog, he scored a knockdown and outpointed former super middleweight world title challenger Jesse Hart in January 2020 and then scored a highlight-reel ninth-round knockout of former world titlist Eleider “Storm” Alvarez in August.

    “(Those wins were) huge for me. I needed those wins,” Smith said. “I knew everything was on the line with those two fights. Even with this fight my career possibly is on the line. I need to get in there and get this win so I get the bigger and better fights.”

    In both fights, Smith (26-3, 21 KOs), 31, who hails from Mastic, New York on Long Island, remained aggressive but was less reckless and more thoughtful about which punches to throw. It paid off with victories that were good enough to earn him a nomination for 2020 fighter of the year from the Boxing Writers Association of America, unusual for a fighter who does not hold a world title. Smith was also nominated after his big 2016 campaign.

    More notably than an award nomination, however, Smith’s 2020 wins put him in position to fight Vlasov (45-3, 26 KOs), 34, of Russia, for a world title.

    “Joe always has his power and it always worked up until that point,” Capobianco said of the fight against Bivol. “So, what we did was go back a little bit to the drawing board and just (have him) stay on his toes a little more, be a little more fluid with his punches and like Joe said, it seems to work. A little more head movement, not straight in, and it’s working.”

    Smith, more so than many fighters, was able to carry on a somewhat normal boxing schedule in 2020 despite the coronavirus pandemic. He fought in January, just before Covid-19 began to spread so severely in the United States, and then was back in August in the Top Rank bubble, continuing to fight thanks to the ongoing deal between his promoter, Joe DeGuardia of Star Boxing, and Top Rank.

    Still, Smith said there was nothing easy about making sure he could safely fight this past summer. He said he was essentially a hermit.

    “I lucked out with that,” Smith said of his normal schedule. “Also, I sacrificed a lot. I stayed away from people so I knew I would be good and ready (for the August fight). I didn’t take any chances of getting the virus. I kept myself quarantined the whole time. I haven’t been near anybody but my trainer and my (wife) and whoever I’m sparring.”

    Because of the adjustments Smith and Capobianco have made, Smith said he will be ready for Vlasov, who isn’t as talented as Bivol but likes to move around in during his fights.

    “I watched a few of Vlasov’s fights – the (Isaac) Chilemba fight and a couple of others. He’s a very busy guy and he’s durable,” Smith said. “He can take a good shot and he always comes back with something. He does move around here and there. He does try to use his legs.”

    Vlasov’s three losses were all by decision — to Chilemba in 2011, Gilberto “Zurdo” Ramirez in 2015 and to Krzysztof Glowacki, when Vlasov moved up to cruiserweight to challenge for a world title in 2018.

    “It’s everything right now,” Smith said of defeating Vlasov for the belt. “My whole career is on the line with this fight, so I really need to secure that belt. It would mean everything to me. It’s everything I’ve worked for. I need this win so I can move forward in my career and so I don’t have to go back to working as a laborer or relying on a paycheck every week, killing myself and working for the rest of my life. Securing the world title, which is my dream, is pretty much everything. I just want to get in there and get this guy and get that belt. That’s the only thing on my mind.”

    Should Smith emerge victorious on Saturday Top Rank and DeGuardia plan to set up a Beterbiev-Smith fight for later this year in the United States. Beterbiev (16-0, 16 KOs) earned his place in the fight by knocking out Adam Deines in the 10th round to retain the WBC and IBF bets on March 20 in Moscow.

    The prospect of such a major fight has also provided Smith with additional motivation against Vlasov.

    “Just knowing that’s the next possibility, the next fight is motivation right there,” Smith said. “It’s a huge opportunity, so I gotta get this belt. I’d take that fight right away.

    “I’ve watched a few of his fights. (Beterbiev is) a very strong guy, powerful but he’s been hit and down before and he also hasn’t fought the greatest competition I feel. So we’ll see what happens. Right now I’m focused on this fight and the opportunity to fight for another title after this.”

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  14. Surrix

    Surrix Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    I think he is not bad.
    Unless this sentence: “I’ve watched a few of his fights. (Beterbiev is) a very strong guy, powerful but he’s been hit and down before and he also hasn’t fought the greatest competition I feel.
    Gvozdyk in good shape and his real prime = worse opponent than prime Glowacki, I'm sure, despite Glowacki is larger and heavier than Gvodzdyk. I also suspect that Vlasov did not had prime Glowacki in the ring.
    Beterbiev now looks that also is old and we do know this.
  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

    Jan 18, 2010
    I expect Vlasov to outpoint Smith.
    That said, will a Russian be able to get the nod in the US in a relatively close fight?
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