Maybe Jermain Taylor ought to think of honourable ways to retire.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Sep 22, 2007.


  1. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    You really don't think he has a chance to beat Bute or an aging Calzaghe a year from now? Please Bute is too green, and Joe does not have the power anymore to really hurt Taylors chin, and when Taylor commits to the jab it is superior to Joe's in every way. Prime Calzaghe stops Taylor by the 7th or 8th, but today it is a close decision either way. Taylor is a MUCH more polished fighter than a Jeff Lacy, and has beaten BETTER opponents. Oh lemme guess you will come back and say "well Taylor folds under pressure" like when he beat Ouma 10 rounds to 2? Winky threw punches in bundles, more than Taylor and that fight was pretty damn close. Taylor might get beat but he will not get dominated.
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    But getting blown out by an average MW with pressure and power, which will definitley happen by the way, is telling on what he can do.

    So how can he retire out before further destruction, but in an honourable way, which honour has yet to be apart of his career and life in general?
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He can always bow out and PRETEND to be some boxing expert on a message board.
     
  5. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    You can ***** and complain all you want, but Taylor would have beaten every fighter on Calzaghe's resmue except maybe Eubank, and I would have made him the favorite, considering Eubanks age. The Taylor during the Hopkins fight showed an amazing Jab and a nice right hand. He was stunned by a perfect right hand on the button, but he was not seriously hurt or has NEVER been down.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    It's pretty pathetic how you try to downgrade any Taylor opponent while at the same time, blowing up Joe's opponents to near greatness. You're pretty transparent Amsterdam. Hence the 'over the top' arrogance you display with your intellect. It's often the phone's who have to trump themselves up a bunch.
     
  7. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    That same punch Hopkins threw that stunned Taylor, was similar to the punch that nearly put Tarver on his ass, and was scored a KD. I can't wait til the end of this month. :good
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Amazing jab, amazing right. Boxing fans amaze me sometimes.

    Taylor would not even defeat that 'iffy', but talented fighter in your avatar. I don't think I'd pick him over a prime focused Reid, definitley not Eubank and definitley not Jeff Lacy, considering Lacy can apply effective pressure and can set a game plan against a fighter who is poor at keeping a gameplan.

    This only shows the absurdity that we all have to live with as boxing fans.
     
  9. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yeah right Ams_t talk about "insecure pride" :D . . . your memory is clearly being blocked by your extreme hatred. :rofl Maybe fight Winky again? Have you forgotten that Winky never wanted to have a piece of Taylor again? :rofl

    . . . and maybe one year of humilation is NOT enough for you just incase Taylor proves you wrong . . . maybe it's you who needs to retire from ESB. :think

    Think about it friend. :hey :hi:
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    That's the way you percieve it, I get along with most on here fine.

    I just see through the specific mess regarding Jermain Taylor, it has little to do with Calzaghe, you in fact bring up Calzaghe into the equation, not me.

    In fact, I have often used Arthur Abraham as a counter example to underrated MW in comparison to the disgrace that we have holding the MW championship, I don't care for Abraham much at all.

    Pavlik will sort things out and will show that you all know very little about the sport of boxing in the end and believe whatever is fed to you. You are the ones who start the personal attacks by the way, I prefer to keep to boxing discussion.
     
  11. Fedor Em

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    Reid is so overrated it is pathetic, just because he lost a disputed decision to the most protected feather fisted fighter of the 90's suddenly he is a world beater? I guess a 37 year old Eubank would have beaten the Taylor that got in the ring with Winky or Hopkins? I seriouly doubt it. He looked like crap for much of that fight. Taylor's jab when he actually used it effectively was better than ANY jab Calzaghe has ever seen and I can say that without hesitation. I said a nice right hand, did I say it was on par with Hearns? Stop getting **** twisted, Hopkins was hesitant to throw against the combinations Taylor was throwing in the first half of EACH fight. Now I would give Lacy a chance because of the power he possessed but Taylor would have won an 8-4 decision most likely. Christ you make it seem like he is china, the man has never been down.
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    Why'd you quote me if you aren't going to address anything I've posted? What you say doesn't change the fact that you DO downgrade Taylor and his opponents while upping Joe C and his to ATG level. Of course you seem to match Joe C up with SMALLER guys to give him an advantage in hypothetical H2H matchups. Very clever of you. Here's another you can use when upping Joes greatness, Joe C would probably beat Tito Trinidad, Pernell Whitaker and Azumah Nelson. You're welcome.:rofl

    That's fine that you get along with most here. This board has become a haven for nuthuggers the past year or so. No wonder you do.
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I never claimed Reid was a world beater, but he was a solid fighter, but he had very good timing and a powerful lead right that would have went right over Taylor's low left hand and I seriously doubt Taylor takes it well, considering Wright buzzed him, Reid could probably land with some frequency also and score a KO.

    Taylor has never been down because he has yet to face a real puncher.

    Lacy would simply bomb him out with aggression, he'd drive him to the ropes and work some body shots in and finally finish him off before the 4th round probably, Taylor seems to me to be that fragile in my opinion.

    Eubank was 33 by the way and that version of Eubank still had a good counter right hand, the same punch Pavlik's going to do Taylor in with, I pick Eubank by KO, no less.
     
  14. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After the fight next week when he loses and Merchant is asking what is next, he can say the money was not right, so he will now apply for the open commentator position at HBO. HBO will see it as a huge compliment and hire him on the spot and he will stay HBO's poster boy.
     
  15. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :yep