Mayweather - Baldomir is kind of a gem

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  1. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Sure, Gayweather showcased his skills, but he was doing that before this fight minus the excessive phobia of not getting hit or what most would call running!!!!

    Why suddenly this fight became a gem? Against a fighter many times slower than Corrales.
     
  2. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    He shut out someone who was a legit champ that was 13 pds heavier than him while having a broken hand and he could've done better? lol

    Oh man Pacq nuthuggers are something else!
     
  3. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, a show case of both offensive and defensive ability. I haven't called it an ATG performance, because you need an ATG opponent to do that IMO, or someone possessing several key physical advantages to yourself. I would call it an ATG demonstration. Sit and watch the fight, and you'll see almost every conceivable Boxing skill.

    Joan Guzman was a talented fighter, he had as much potential as Zab Judah had and maybe more. Like Judah he let it all slip away through a lack of focus and dedication. Judah will go down as the better fighter. Guzman fights cans. Awful fighters at fluctuating weights; he doesn't belong at the table when it comes to elite discussion. If you'd like to discuss the pros and cons of this waste of potential, feel free to PM me or to make a thread, and we'll go from there.

    Back to Mayweather; I was entertained! I'm a Boxing purist. I love a real fight as much as anyone else, but I also enjoy watching superb demonstrations of skill, and nobody can deny that is what that fight was. Mayweather had an opponent in front of him who's only real hope was to land something big and heavy, with his weight behind it. Mayweather never gave him the excuse to do so. Neither would you, and neither would I if we had multi million pay days with ODLH infront of us. That's the truth and that's human nature.

    Pacquaio vs Mosley, did you feel cheated?
     
  4. kopejh

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    i'm a floyd fan but the baldomir was a garbage ass performance.
     
  5. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    didn't care for the fight. not blaming floyd for he doesn' have the power to put a dent on baldy.
     
  6. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Baldomir didn't have a big name or a big promoter. (May of been the Mexican promoter Beltran, though I'm not sure) Slugger has pointed out it's 8 years unbeaten so I'll apologise for that, my mistake.

    The way the ranking system works, is that you are rewarded for wins. I would assume that 8 years of victories would accumalate into a mandatory ranking, would you not? Regardless of the opposition. If I win 5p a week for 5 years, it's still a nice sum of money at the end of that period, regardless of the small takings over the shorter regular period. Same concept for Baldomir, many wins lead to a mandatory shot.

    OFFICIALLY, he had a win over Clottey too. I agree it's a bull**** win, but it was given; meaning he had a win over a solid and legit WW contender before facing Zab.
     
  7. PIPO23

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    Gem in pink gloves.
     
  8. kopejh

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    sjs19 nobody's gonna read your posts if you make them that long
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    In my opinion, the rankings by the ABC's is just as corrupt and broken as everything else in boxing. Not to mention the fact they they don't often rank anyone else with a belt says a lot about motives.

    QUALITY wins over several other established contenders are what should get you rewarded with a title shot, not just wins period.
     
  10. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mostly comes down to money I agree.

    As for quality wins, surely at first (At the very least) then what was considered 'quality' would be seen as subjective?
     
  11. theflyest

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    This is prolly the only fight in Floyd's career that I believe is really boring. This is coming from someone who thinks Floyd is very entertaining in the ring. I don't believe Floyd was up for this fight. I think this was more of "let's just get the win" & go home kind of fight.
     
  12. BigReg

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    Margo has slow ass hands, his punches are wide, his feet are slow, and he doesn't know how to cut off the ring. How the hell is a guy like that a legit challenge for someone like Mayweather?


    Lance, the dude had worked his way up the rankings for several years. I remember when Tim Bradley became the mando for Witter's belt, and many experts claimed that Bradley didn't deserve the shot. You can't just assume this guy was just handed a shot. He earned it , and he proved he earned it by beating Judah.

    Margo was a no name defending a paper title. Judah had no obligation to fight him. The only reason Margo was able to build up any sort of name is because Arum told everyone that was listenting that Mayweather was ducking him. Yeah, Don King won't work with Arum, yet they made a bunch of fights togther; including Mayweather vs. Judah.



    Don't act like it's a fact that Baldo didn't earn his title shot. Here are some facts about Margo. Fact; he was caught with illegal substances in his wraps before the Mosley fight. Fact; he's lost 3 out of 4 since that incident, twice by stoppage.

    Bruh, do you watch any Clottey fights? The guy is not know for his punch output. It's pretty much at the same level as Floyd's. Furthermore, you're now insinuationg that Clottey was a tougher stylistic matchup for Margo
    than Floyd would've been. Just think about that one.

    Yeah, he just happened to run out of gas as soon as his wraps were confiscated. That's some coincidence.:roll:
     
  13. BigReg

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    It's pointless to rank other champions. What does it say about the ABC's motives given that they'll allow you to bypass a mando if you're unifying with another champ?
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

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    And therein lies the biggest problem. Ring seems to have the best rankings. But sadly, it's also who your promoter is, or who the promoter is of others in the division. Think Judah actually deserved a title shot from Spinks? He and Spinks shared the same promoter. That was Judah's qualification. Since he lost to Tszyu, he fought a few guys at 140, then Boom, title shot.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    Because that's one inconsistent thing they do. I can't think of any reason NOT to rank another orgs champ.