Mayweather - Baldomir is kind of a gem

The soloution would be If you haven't fought your way into the number one contenders spot, then you don't get a title shot.

The only way that would be applicable would be if nobody cared about money, which will never happen. Most people still put stock in the lineal Championship, or The Ring belt. The Ring takes no sanctioning fees to the best of my knowlege, so they would appear to have the pureist intentions as of now.

 

Do YOU watch Clottey's fights? :huh You think all his fights he throws as little as he did vs. Pac?

Look, like I said, you can stick to one gun and assume that's the ONLY reason. But you conveniently ignore that his style does NOT allow one to stay at the top as long as he did. NOw I'm not saying that's the ONLY reason, but when presented with other reaslistic reasons, I don't just ignore them out of convenience.

The rest I've addressed in other posts. But please, explain how Baldomir EARNED a shot at he World Champ based on who he beat. ****, if thats what it takes, ANYONE can get a title shot at the lineal belt beating those types.

 

I have trouble believing anyone actually watched Baldo vs. Clottey. They just watch the last foul and think it was a BS stoppage. Baldomir rocked Clottey, and then Clottey continuously fouled until the fight was stopped. The last foul was the last straw after several elbows, headbutts, and lowblows.

 

The Ring is owned by a promoter dude. That alone raises an eyebrow.

You might have a point about the money keeping fights form happening, but that's something that has fallen due to networks overpaying guys. Which is another thread altogether, and another reason for boxings fall from grace. FIght overmatched opponents for a big purse, wait till a shot comes.

 

I can, it's pointless,counterproductive and unfair. If two champs want to fight eachother, they can at any time. If you're the IBF champ, you have to worry about fighting IBF mandos. What's the motivation of also trying to particpate in a WBC eliminator bout? The whole point of winning a belt is that it gets you more money and more control over your career. Actually trying to work your way up another org's rankings negates this. And even if you become the mando, what if the other champ let's it go to purse bid. As a fellow champ, are you going to be happy having to take a much smaller cut? What if the WBC champ is the IBF's mando, but the WBC says that he has a mando against someone else? At the end of the day, there's no point in ranking other champions. Their status as champion gives them more control over their careers, and they aren't going to give that up by fighting elimators for 2 and 3 other orgs, and being mandos as well as fighting their own mandos.

 

This. Baldomir was getting to Clottey, clottey was gassing and fouled to save himself.

Granted this was 99 and clottey improved alot since then.

 

Baldi was losing that fight ,Yes Clottey made it ugly but he was still on his way to a UD ..I also want to know where the hell was that Clottey when he fought Manny ..

 

The reason ABC's don't rank other's Champions is simple. Each Championship fight, the fighters must pay 3.5% of their purse as a sanctioning fee for the title, obviously this goes to the relevant body. That's 7% of the total fight purse in the pockets of the WBC, WBA or who ever.

Now if there's a unification fight then fighters don't pay 7% of their purse, they still only give 3.5% which is then split between the two bodies. Meaning instead of their regular 7% for a world title fight, the organisation gets 3.5

Like I said, all comes down to money.

 

At the time it was considered a good, a masterful performance, but also a win over a very poor fighter.

 

I've watched plenty of Clottey fights, he is not a high output fighter.

And you can convieniently ignore that Margo's steep dropoff coincided exactly with his wraps being taken away.

Easy, he went 7 years without a loss, and beat several fighters ranked highly by the WBC. These rankings are complicated and are at times seemingly corrupt. Guys like Baldo though don't get pushed up the rankings undeservedly. You don't even understand why other champs aren't ranked by the orgs, so you're in no position to say who did or didn't earn their shot.

 

The hole in this theory is that every org has their rules setup in order to encourage unification.

 

I wasn't suggesting they fight eliminators. Do you think EVERY mandatory #1 does that? And we both know the ABC's bend their own rules all the time. What you're clearly not getting my point. I'm not suggesting they just start doing that tomorrow. It would require a change in their rules obviously, because it would be different then how it is now.

 

The above are facts.

The only time a unification rule would be inforced; would be if the fight purses between the two champions were MUCH higher than what would be, between Champion and contender.

 

Ignore? I never said your theory was WRONG Reg, I simply pointed out there are or can be other factors to a decline. You are the one doing the ignoring.

Like I said, he was put in that fight to allow Judah to look good. Unfortunately, it was Judah.

You're too caught up in the current system to continue this. Respectfully disagree.

 

Maybe I missunderstood your point, but it seemed like you were suggesting that the orgs don't rank other champs because the sanctioning fees are lower in a unification bout. However, all of the orgs have rules to encourage unfication. Look at the WBA, they actually make more money when their champs unify. The real champ pays a lower sanctioning fee, but then they also have the regular champ who makes up for the loss in sanctioning fees from the real champ. All of the other orgs have interim titles that they give out to get more sanctioning fees, and the WBC has the Diamond belt, as well as the silver belt.