Mayweather better than Ali and Robinson? Ha

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  1. cuco10701

    cuco10701 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    By Michael Rosenthal


    When Muhammad Ali said he was The Greatest, you tended to believe him. When Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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    says the same thing, well …

    Mayweather was asked on a conference call a few days ago whether he actually believes what he has said in the past, that he’s a better fighter than were both heavyweight legend Ali and the consensus greatest-ever Sugar Ray Robinson.

    He answered in the affirmative.

    “Why not?,” he said. “I take my hat off to them. I got respect for Sugar Ray Robinson. I've got respect for Muhammad Ali. But I'm a man just like they're men. I put on my pants just like they put on their pants. What makes them any better than I am? Because they fought a thousand fights? In my era, it's totally different. You know? It's pay-per-view now, so things change. It's out with the old and in with the new. Things change. Like I said, Muhammad Ali is one hell of a fighter. But Floyd Mayweather
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    is the best. Sugar Ray Robinson is one hell of a fighter, but Floyd Mayweather is the best.”

    Here’s a quick why not:

    Robinson could do everything Mayweather can – and much more. He had power and wasn’t afraid to use it, as Mayweather seems to be. Robinson actually took risks in order to take out his opponents and entertain the fans. And consider this: He started his career 119-1-2 during an era deep in talent and was still fighting for titles into his 40s. Robinson fought 30-plus fights against Hall of Famers.

    Ali could do everything Mayweather can – at heavyweight. And, although he wasn’t as aggressive as Robinson was, he too went after his opponents more than Mayweather does. Ali dominating the richest era ever in the heavyweight division, fighting 13 times against hall of famers. And he had charisma that Mayweather couldn’t begin to replicate.

    Who has Mayweather beaten? Jose Luis Castillo? Ricky Hatton? An aging Oscar De La Hoya
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    ? That doesn't stack against the likes of Jake LaMotta and Kid Gavilan or Sonny Liston and Joe Frazier.

    Make no mistake: Mayweather is a future Hall of Famer and one of the best fighters of his time. To compare him to the likes of Ali and Robinson is ridiculous, however. He needs to prove a lot more before we can even entertain such a concept.

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    ^Hey floyd? Instead of crying, how about learning to be humble some day:
     
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  2. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    :goodFantastic posting
     
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  3. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    Old topic is old.
     
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  4. Reuben

    Reuben L.A.M.B Full Member

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    Great post.

    I heard he was saying he is better than SNV.

    Madness.
     
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  5. billy boy balbo

    billy boy balbo New Member Full Member

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    put an opinion poll up
     
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  6. FASTHANDS

    FASTHANDS New Member Full Member

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    Mayweather is marketing himself, im sure his statement infuriated many long time boxing historians and I have to agree with him when he stated he would never say so and so is better (I wouldn't admit SRR was better then myself (if I was Mayweather). Obviously SRR was the greater fighter.

    As for Ali, I have never been a real fan of his, although I appreciated his greatness. However, he is not "the greatest", Sugar Ray Robinson takes that title and on my all-time list I would have Henry Armstrong ahead of him.

    For the Joe Louis fans, I convincing argument could be made in favor of him being better then Ali.
     
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  7. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know why people get so bothered by this. Its not like Mayweather is is running a campaign where he's trying to persuade all of boxing to crown him the GOAT. He was asked what he personally believes and he answered honestly. I don't see anything wrong with that unless your a hater.

    Its obvious that Mayweather doesn't have the resume of those guys, but he his skills are elite I don't care what era we are talking about. If you think he's the GOAT fine, if you don't thats fine too.
     
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  8. FASTHANDS

    FASTHANDS New Member Full Member

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    Couldn't help but notice that chick on your avatar. Who is SHE????
     
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  9. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's Melyssa Ford homie.
     
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  10. cuco10701

    cuco10701 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All those great fighter fighters never duck or run from anyone,=in other way they dont cherry pick their opponent or duck fighters like mayweather has done in his career:
     
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  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Damn didnt realize Louis was a big boy. I know he slouching but Ali's near 6'4
     
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  12. hallelujahholla

    hallelujahholla Original Gangsta Full Member

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    Mayweather hasn't beat half the competition Sugar Ray or Ali has...THAT is why he's not the greatest...now, TECHNICALLY...he may be...but in terms of accomplishment...NOT EVEN CLOSE!!! Champions don't ***** and cry up a storm and accuse their opponents of being on roids before even fighting them...Floyd wont even fight PAcquiao a smaller guy than him...how is he the greatest?!?! STFU FLOYD.
     
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  13. cuco10701

    cuco10701 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    agreed, to be the best,you have to fight the best & take on all comers!
     
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  14. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd ain't even a better fighter then those two. He may be more technically astute then Ali, but that doesn't make him a 'better fighter.' Floyd is better technically then Roy Jones, that doesn't make him a better fighter either. Floyd's problem is he doesn't take risks in the ring and he holds himself back. He could be compared to those guys if he had the heart and spirit that they had, but he doesn't.
     
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  15. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    the best bit is "When Muhammad Ali said he was The Greatest, you tended to believe him" yes so what you choiose not to beleive mayweater and nor do i but this article reeks of bias

    is floyd with his ego and his persona gonna admit defeat to anyone no so take it how many most will a fighter being a fihghter
     
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