Mayweather, Calzaghe - why rate Mayweather higher?

Having been in attendance for both a Calzaghe fight (v Lacy) and a Mayweather fight ( v Gatti) I can tell you that Joe has the faster hand speed and the better endurance. floyd is a master tacticion but he does tale breathers through a fight, even when he hasnt actually been that active, (something Calzaghe doesnt do). Floyd has the better strategic defense (as in the throw wall you want, u cant hit me), whereas Joe unloads so many punches each round, he liv e by the motto "the best form of defense is attack" , sheer volume of punches doesnt allow his opponent to throw anything.

Floyds Resume is better in name agreed, but tgere is a very old and truthful saying that its easier to take something than it is the hold on to it. being a challenger is always easier then being champion because you have nothing to lose. Yes I am aware that Floyd has also defended his titles but not to the rigorous efficiency that Calzaghe has.

There is also the argumant that says Calzaghe has only been "the man" in one division, this is obviously true, but then again so has Floyd, except for the 130 crown he hasny actually fought any of the champions deemed to be 'the man' in any of the divisions he has stepped into. " to be the man you hav to beat the man". So tho I rate Mayweather ahead of Calzaghe on a P4P basis , to me is isnt that much of a gap at all.

 

Just to difficult to answer I watched all of calzaghe fights and mayweather and they are so similiar, maybe Calzaghe has that flow and more offense but boxing skills i just cant split them to be honest, joe defense is just remarkable and the only one i knew that can punched straight and long whilst reaching and mean i havent seen no one do that watch calzhage fight round 6 through to eleven its poetry,
floyd fights in spurts, I told every one on this forum that floyd has power he only holds back cus of his hands and i wouldnt be surprise that if he fights cotto he goes all out and stops cotto more impressively than he did hatton, word is born

 

calzaghe likes to fight nobodys like manfredo lol what a shockin fight that was. bika in a world title fight who just about won contender. lacy and kessler yes they were good fight decisions 2 big names doesnt make a legend im afraid. hatton is higher rated than calzaghe to me.

 

So what if he had to dig deep? If they're not good fighters, they're not good fighters. If he had to "dig deep" to beat them, then that means HE'S not as good as you think he is, not THEY'RE better than we think they are.

Also, I would say rate Mayweather higher because he's BETTER. His defense is much better (Calzaghe's has holes), his offense is better (Calzaghe is a better combination slapper, er I mean puncher), and he's much better at the mental part of the game than Calzaghe. Calzaghe fights down to the level of his opposition, he showboats when he's bored.

 

But look closer.. the Manfredo stoppage was BS. Lacy was not a big name, is not a big name, and has since then proved he was no good in the first place.

And though we HOPE Kessler is a great win for Calzaghe we don't really know, since MOST of us have only seen him in one other fight (with Librado Andrade!).

 

true..... i knew alot about kessler but hadnt seen alot of him

 

Level of opposition comparison argument does not hold. Eubank was on the slide, and Lacy has proven to be a very average boxer (post Calzaghe defeat). Kessler, well that indeed could be a great win, given that Kessler dominates SMW division from this point onwards and I think he will.

But really, Calzaghe lacks wins over great fighter, which Floyd does have.

 

Manfredo was a good stoppage. The guy was getting pummeled and throwing absolutely nothing in return.

Lacey WAS a bigber name in the US than Joe, before he fought Joe. He was a big favourite to end Joe's streak. He was 'the new Tyson' with aperfect record and phenomenal KO ratio.

After Joe beat the spirit out of him, he looked more mortal.

DO you think George Foreman would have looked so sloppy against Ron Lyle and lost to Jimmy Young if not for the crushing Ali put on him?

If a tree falls in the forest and you weren't there to see it, did it really fall?
Kessler's greatness is not contingent upon most of you having seen it demomnstrated.

 

Enlightment !

Truly your salvation is at hand. You see things now as they really are.

Extacy must be yours.

You can now worship with CHJ and the othe select few who see and know the truth!

 

This is a good post. :good

 

:rofl :nut Joe is lucky to be at #3 Behind Pac!:yep There is no doubt his talent and skill would allow him to grace the P4P list but what it takes to get on the list is beating the very best or dominating in your devision or many divisions. Joe hasn't dominated in any other division but 168 which is struggling for good fighters...he has also avoided the best names in or around his division. Winning against Mikkel to me was about as good or a bit better than his win over Lacy. That's not saying much at all. You should just be happy he is on the list.:yep

 

364 in under a week.

That must be a new record.

 

(Tip: Don't put Hatton and Calzaghe in the same sentence.

It's like saying: Boxer's of Ruiz's and Ali's calibre....)


I'd better start saving them. You're almost at 500. And, as you might know, your archives only goes back 500 posts.

You should save them after that.

 

I think Talent wise they are pretty even,but Mayweathers has done more with his talent then Calzaghe.