Mayweather, Canelo and Fury: The worst ducker?

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The worst ?

  1. Mayweather

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  2. Canelo

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  3. Fury

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    73.3%
  1. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    A brief summary of the misdeeds of each:

    Mayweather insisted that Pacquiao submit to his new anti-doping protocols in 2010. Two years later Pacquiao will offer a 50-50 but Mayweather only awarded him $40 million. Pacquiao will then offer a 55-45 for the American and you know the rest.

    Canelo had for WBC challenger Golovkin. In 2016 he offered her $10 million and a catchweight of 155 pounds, which was ridiculous considering Canelo was over 170 in the ring. They will still face each other in 2017 and 2018 but Canelo refused the trilogy that everyone wanted in 2019. This will be one of the reasons for his conflict with Golden Boy, the fight having been planned in the DAZN contract without his knowledge. It's fun to see that he will take the fight three years later, Golovkin being forty.

    As for Fury, he found a way to dodge Usyk despite a 70-30 revenue split in his favor. His excuse? He doesn't want to win less than the Ukrainian in the event of a rematch. Let's add that he is also in aborted fights against Joshua and Klitschko.
     
  2. fruitandnutcase

    fruitandnutcase Member Full Member

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    I can't think of a Floyd duck that was as obvious or as bad or as sport-tarnishing as Fury ducking Usyk

    I think Floyd exercised his A-side more than Fury, but Floyd did it in a clever way where he stacked the advantages up... but still got the fight made

    Canelo's thing with GGG was bad, but their still got the trilogy on in hindsight and Canelo's (and Floyd's) resumes are deep enough that they can fall back on it

    I also hold the heavyweight division to a higher standard... even though it's the most clownish division in the sport
     
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  3. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Wow, for “duckers” these three have fought some dangerous competition!

    With that said - Fury letting the Usyk fight fall through atm and Floyd not fighting Pac til he got iced by JMM feel fairly similar to me.

    Outside of that, they both fought pretty solid competition (given what was available - especially in the case of Fury)

    Canelo is good - people just love to hate him. During his oft-criticized super middleweight run he fought Saunders who at the time was looked at as a king of dark horse of the division, Smith who had fairly recently beat Groves (the former top guy), and Plant who is looked at as one of the best fighters in the division as evidenced by the excitement about this weekends upcoming fight….

    One gimme fight with Yildrim is fine, and for any other fighter people would call it a “tune-up” and say it’s necessary.

    Fury’s bout with Whyte suffers from a similar type of revisionist view of things.

    Floyd also has a great resume in general, but probably took advantage of timing / negotiation more than the others.
     
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  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Take Floyd and Canelo out, you can't call someone a ducker if they actually ended up fighting the person you're screaming they ducked......
     
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  5. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    The three are great champions but they avoided the greatest danger of their career at a given moment. In 2010-2012 no boxer was more dangerous than Pacquiao for Mayweather and certainly not Mosley and Cotto. In 2016-2019 no boxer was more dangerous than Golovkin for Canelo. Today Usyk is arguably the most dangerous for Fury along with perhaps Joyce.
     
  6. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    People always blame Canelo for the 3rd fight but that was 100% GGGs fault. GGG demanded the fight be in MSG (or somewhere other than Vegas) because he felt he was robbed in the 2nd fight. Definitely NOT robbed but it shouldve been a draw unlike the first fight where GGG should've won (but a draw was a feasible albeit biased - as usual - for Canelo). And the site demands came AFTER GGG had crazy demands for the rematch that included higher purse, selection of ref/judges, and even complained of noise in Canelo's lockerroom lol
     
  7. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    In boxing everything is a question of years. Today Donaire would annihilate Rigondeaux yet he barely touched him in 2013.

    Maybe Fury will face Usyk in 2024. That will be another fight.
     
  8. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Tank is a worse duck than Floyd, Canelo, or Fury. At least all of those three tested themselves. Tank still working on his 1st real opponent and he's fighting part-time instagram star at a CW w a rehydration clause...

    GTFOH
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    They all shamelessly avoided the toughest test of their career. For shame.
     
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  10. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Well put, I agree.
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We can look at both in hindsight,

    Floyd was far more worn than Pac, this is evidenced by the fact Pac was still world class after the fight. That fight was Floyd's last hurrah.

    As for Canelo trying to age Golovkin, I thought Golovkin won both 1 and 2, so clearly Golovkin was still prime level

    Fury doesn't really wanna fight Usyk, I'd say that is a duck. He' already previously said Usyk isn't a draw (in his opinion), and wants someone from the west. That would technically be a duck. I'm not sold that they'll ever fight.
     
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  12. James Page

    James Page Active Member banned Full Member

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    GGG. Ducked an entire division for nearly half a decade, somehow still pouted his way to a big money trilogy, then abandoned his laurels to duck YET ANOTHER challenger.
     
  13. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fury by a mile
     
  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    I was thinking of such a thread but I would include Jack Dempsey who is accused almost daily in Classic for "ducking" both Greb and Wills.
     
  15. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    This is the worst duck in recent years. Fury has monumentally tarnished his standing. I bet even sugar hill distances himself now. Tank Davis is irrelevant, we all know that guy's career is a circus and an in-house job, the difference with Fury is most people thought he was legit. He had the potential to make the best fight and the most lucrative fight in boxing here yet moved the goal posts at every turn, it's a clear f****** duck.. even more disgusting is he played his own fans.
     
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