mayweather didn't clean out 147!!!!!!!!

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    a joyboy's feelings was hurt and is now resorting to name calling.

    again i have no problems with floyd's choice of opposition. but dissing someone else's opposition just to make your fighter good would not help. floyd has to fight them.
     
  2. Scar

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    You can't count the retirement regardless of whether he returned or not, that's stupidity and ignorance.

    He fought the guys on top at 147, it's only people who want to play delusional that accept it or handpick anyone to favor in order to make Mayweather look bad. There was a reason Margarito was first looked at as the 147lb version of Vivian Harris when he started his bull**** talk as we know how both stories match.

    Now that he's back his announcements are obvious and in your damn face. He wants Pacquiao after his next fight if successful of course or Mosley. He also announced that he signed to have FIVE fights, how is that difficult for people to understand and avoid starting idiotic threads and posts?

    He's one man and right now he has his eyes on Marquez. I'm sure if he could fight Marquez, Pacquiao, Margarito and your entire family on one night he would at least ATTEMPT to but in REALITY and not WWE royal rumbles don't exist in boxing. Till the Marquez fight is over then we can start talks about who he plans to fight(already announced) and if he wants to fight the "top Welterweights".

    Another reminder who the top WWs are.

    Mosley who lost to Cotto

    Cotto who lost to Concreto and is going in against Clottey in a fight people consider 50/50

    Berto
     
  3. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And I love reading the reams of material you guys have ready to defend every decision he's made since birth. Seriously, I mean that.

    It doesn't change that Judah was coming off of a loss to said "tune up". For the sake of business, Floyd fought someone who obviously didn't deserve the shot at him. If that makes you proud of him, more power to you. Just don't say that all these other guys were "unworthy" because they had lost also.

    To a career journeyman, on their home turf no less.
     
  4. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    We know he has to fight them, what you seem to not know is that he can take one fight at a time. Maybe you are too carried away with WWE or mixed up but in boxing Royal Rumbles don't exist.

    His main focus is Marquez and that's who he will talk about till that one is over with, overlooking Marquez will be idiotic and foolish.

    I didn't see the likes of you calling Pacquiao a fraud or a chicken when he was asked during his training for Hatton who he plans for next and said "I'll discuss after that fight is over, right now our focus is Hatton and only Hatton".
     
  5. eze

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    He tried to find a replacement. Couldn't.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Idiotic response with no facts whatsoever as expected, just pure ignorance and stupidity. "I want to hate him, don't care about what was going on, I just hate him". Did you expect them to manufacture your father and schedule to fight him then?

    Tell me who he should have fought instead of Judah please. If you hate the guy just admit it and get the **** out, no need to act like a 15 year old on her periods.
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    yes i could not count retirement but since he came back, he has a chance in between those years to come back anytime he chooses. ok just for my point, so it was still a little more than 2 years compared to pac's 11 months and people now expect pac to clean 135, 140 or 147?

    he could have come back and face a welterweight contender or a less regarded champion like berto. he took jmm, a lightweight champ. he gets a pass since his real target is pac. but from the time after he beats hatton and his retirement, the stage was perfectly set for a cotto-floyd fight after cotto had just defeated mosley.

    i know you would say that he should get another pass since he retired but imo, this is his chance to prove that he is the best 147 during that time.
     
  8. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why would I bother? In your world, Judah was the only fighter he possibly could have fought, just like with every other opponent he's had in the past six years. When Floyd fought them, they were the only fighter in the universe he possibly could have stepped in with, because anyone else more credible was either ducking, tied up, or had lost.

    You've already decided to ignore these facts.

    Judah lost to Baldomir.

    Everyone knew Zab was a six round fighter.

    Floyd fought him anyhow, and fought him immediately after a clear loss.

    Excuse me if I don't buy that Zab was the best available opponent. If that's what passes for an explanation in your comfy corner of Floyd's taint, then so be it.
     
  9. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats the truth.
     
  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    No you can't count him as active when he's retired. What kind of ***** **** is that?

    The man was retired and the time he was away doesn't count as his WBC/Lineal/P4P#1 were removed. Especially when he admitted his retirement was a much needed physical break from the sport to heal his hand and body.

    "No I will count him as active when he was retired!"

    If you don't think you look stupid saying that then end the discussion as I would find it insulting exchanging words with someone with that mentality.

    Leonard had his share of retirements too did people rate him and consider him ducking certain fighters in his time out/away?, I can also give you endless examples of situations similar to that.

    So you're now hinting that he should fight Berto instead of JMM?, the same Berto who was coming off a life and death fight with Collazo and was scheduled to fight Urango?

    For a first fight after 2 years off JMM isn't a bad opponent like you try and make him be, think all this "size" talk should have given many fans a wake up call after DLH/Pacquiao. If you can't see that his fight with Marquez is a clear sign to promote a future fight with Pac(his last two opponents are Mayweather's as well) then you must have issues.

    Mosley looks to be more busy trying to get a fight with Pacquiao than Mayweather till Brian Kenny begged him to show up on air to try and avoid making him look like the hater that he is. Even at that Mosley embarrassed his ass and told him that Marquez is not an easy opponent.

    You make it sound like his choice of fighting Marquez is the first and final decision. Again I remind you, he signed to have FIVE FIGHTS, Marquez is the first and it's ****ing obvious the rest will eventually be some of the best Welters available. You're judging like he chose Marquez and will retire after it. :nut
     
  11. Scar

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    Failing attempts to troll around.

    The Judah fight was already scheduled and set, Judah's loss to Baldomir ruined it even though a date was already set/agreed on. You're not mentioning other opponents because you don't have anyone else to mention and just decided to type a load of garbage to try and look alive when in reality you're typing stuff coming out of your ass and directly ignoring my question.

    He did try to cancel the fight with Judah and get Baldomir in there instead and Margarito. Baldomir wanted more money and one more fight to be ready and Margarito didn't want to cancel his PPV extravaganza against Manuel Gomez which was also set. PLEASE MENTION WHO ELSE HE SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT.

    Good luck.
     
  12. Vitor Belfort

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  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Emoticon responses are teaching me new facts today! :lol:
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    as you can see in my previous post, i have waved almost 4 years and just sticked to 2 years. but i do have some valid reason in the first place why i included the retirement time. he did came back and anytime between those times, he could have picked any opponent he liked.

    ok 2 years it is to stop this technicality, why would you compare pac's 11 months stay above 130 to floyd's 2 years stay above 140?


    i did say that he got a pass since his real target is pacquiao. now what about my point that he should have fought or even considered cotto before he retired? as a boxing fan, i really want that fight to happen back then.
     
  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    When did I compare?, I never made any comparisons. If you want us to then let's go.

    Manny Pacquiao at 135

    David Diaz

    Floyd Mayweather at 147

    Mitchell
    Judah
    Baldomir
    Hatton

    As a boxing fan I also wanted it but unfortunately it never happened since Mayweather decided to retire from the sport. Should we blame him for that?, don't think so, he's not the first to take a retirement break and Cotto didn't exactly prove to be invisible to make the case stronger.

    These are facts you can twist in a negative or positive way but they will never change so its best to move on. Lewis also retired without giving Klitschko a rematch even though all wanted it, does that mean we should murder him and downgrade everything he did?, things like that are normal in boxing just like Pacquiao deciding to move up for DLH rather than having a third fight with JMM. It could be looked in many negative ways but it also has its positives.