Mayweather dominates his opponents. Calslappy, Pacman and Cotto merely survive

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  1. ApatheticLeader

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    Neither is anyone Mayweather has beaten since Corrales (or maybe Castillo). I tend to give PBF more kudos for beating DLH than most people here though.
     
  2. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Average, average, average, good.


    First 3 are shoulder shruggers. Torres I believe nearly put Cotto out didnt he?
     
  3. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hatton was a top 10 p4p fighter. number 8 I believe. Best 140lb fighter in the world. Would absolutely demolish someone like Malignaggi.
     
  4. ApatheticLeader

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    Quintana yes, Torres no (at first Hatton would try to outmuscle him. He'd fail, then simply outbox him).
     
  5. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I never called you out. You have a serious lack of knowledge of boxing and you are probably 12 and seen maybe 1 or 2 fights in your life.

    Floyd dominated Oscar no matter what the score cards say. Double the power shots and total punches. Cotto landed the same number of punches agains Mosley and was out punched in power shots. He merely survived as I said earlier, he didnt dominate like Floyd does. Cottos been knocked silly by Torres and Corley. Floyd has NEVER been in a similar situation. The only fighter as I've said before giving Cotto the better 140 and up record right now is Quintana. Without Quintana its Floyd since I rate Hatton and DLH above everyone else. Hatton was the BEST at 140 and still is. Malignaggi and Torres dont compare.

    Floyd is a top 5 alltime fighter at 130-135. Cotto doesnt have that distinction in any weight class, stop being disingenuous.
     
  6. ApatheticLeader

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    But was already proven to be nowhere near as good at 147. And yes, he would demolish Malignaggi. But the point of my mentioning those fighters before was to show that Cotto had been fighting and beating top-class fighters who were on the way up, which shows a lot more than fighting stagnating fighters and fighters on the way down (like Mitchell, Judah etc...)
     
  7. Max Molyneux

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    Calzaghe Isn't bullied back by strength like Floyd Is.

    Floyd wouldn't dominate If he had a Ruiz style holder fighting him too.
     
  8. ApatheticLeader

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    Isn't that what Hatton tried?
     
  9. G_RapPBF

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    Maussa, Torres, and Malignaggi arent on there way up. They were on there way to a alphabet belt they didnt have to beat anyone to get. They will never be considered top of the line fighters. They arent TOP class. They werent ring magazine number 1's. Cotto never beat a reigning champion at 147. Still hasnt. Dominated Quintana impressively, then edged a 36 year old Mosley. It is what it is. Im not gonna inflate his record. Hatton better then ANYONE Cotto has beat at 140. Floyds win over DLH is far more impressive at 154, then Cotto's edge at 147. All that leaves is Quintana. If he beats Margarito, yes he has the better 147 record. As for now, its a wash.
     
  10. djfonti

    djfonti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's what happens when you fight bums. Not an ATG.
     
  11. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mosley and DLH virtually drew their 2 fights. And Mosley was juiced. Many feel Oscar won the second fight. Quintana and Hatton would be a close fight. Are you saying Quintana could handle Hatton better then Floyd LMAO? How could you say Quintana would wreck Hatton when it took floyd Mayweather 10 times the fighter Quintana is, 10 rounds to wreck Hatton?
     
  12. G_RapPBF

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    Hatton and DLH are bums? :rofl DLH isnt an alltime great? Hatton wasnt the best 140lb fighter in the world. Ring magazine top 10?
     
  13. G_RapPBF

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    That was Hattons first fight at 147. I dont think Quintana beats Hatton convincingly, I think it would be a close affair, maybe Quintana wins on cleaner punching, but he could also be knocked out. Hatton is faster on his feet and with his punches then Cotto. Cotto is the better boxer. Hatton is a much bigger fighter then Mayweather frame wise, so the weight didnt make much of a difference. He was still top 10 p4p and Floyd won convincingly.
     
  14. ApatheticLeader

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    Should we even be counting the DLH win as part of PBF's record at 147? If so, then it is close although Cotto's record at 147 still has more depth. If not then Cotto's very clearly is better.
     
  15. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thats also not "merely surviving". That fight couldn't have gone eitherway Cotto whipped his ass. Landing a lot of punches on cotto doesn't mean you dominated. And not ever having mosely in trouble isn't exactly a knock. Out boxing Mosely is impressive though....so I fail to see how you're not at least ambivalent about this preformance. I've watched the fight many times. The first time I maybe though mosely didn't get enough cred on the cards. But having watched it more I see it was a clear win for Cotto and a masterful job of boxing in rounds 10-12.