Mayweather has a very good chance of stopping Victor Ortiz

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    The odds are 9/4 on Mayweather by stoppage but this guy has been stopped by Maidana and very close to being stopped against Berto as well. Only been 12 rounds once in his whole career and Mayweather will come out looking to make a statement.

    Ortiz is strong but he is not an iron chinned fighter and IMO Mayweather will tee off on him especially after round 4.

    And if you're talking power Ortiz has fought most of his career at 140 so his body is not really accustomed to the power of a WW. Yea he took Berto's punches but they hurt him a lot and Berto IMO was hurt in the 1st round that made him lose some of his snap right from the beginning.

    thoughts?
     
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  2. Green Man

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    It wont surprise me if that happens.

    The kid is a magnet to right hands.

    Floyd will catch him with one right after another while Ortiz is rushing in trying to close the gap and i can see him being stopped by one punch or by accumulation.
     
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  3. Gander Tasco

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    mayweather by late stoppage . ortiz best chance is in the early rounds and make a statement.
     
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  4. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah Ortiz is a huge ww, mayweather won't take risk of trying to knock him out even though he could, look at the Marquez and Mosley fights for confirmation. Unless Ortiz quits of his own accord, mayweather will coast to a easy ud, especially if ortiz tags him hard early on.
     
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  5. PH|LLA

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    I don't think Mayweather could knock out Marquez or Mosley. Mosley almost though. Ortiz is a different story.
     
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  6. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather wont be looking for a KO/TKO so its not going to happen
     
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  7. PH|LLA

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    sometimes when you're looking for a knockout is when it's hardest to get one. Just dominate the fight and the KO comes on it's own.
     
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  8. whoupicking?

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    How is ortiz a different story? If ortiz so easy to knock out he would have been knocked out by hard hitting berto. At 147 ortiz no longer has to drain and lose his power. He is a big WW with explosive punching power.

    Floyd ain't knocking anyone out.
     
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  9. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats true, but Mayweather has a way of dominating a fight but never truly trying to land the shots that hurt an opponent. Personally I think he could of stopped Marquez, but he didnt look for it.

    I think it depends on the fighter to be honest
     
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  10. whoupicking?

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    This is the key, mayweather did not look for it and he hardly does. This is why he is so smart, why try to knock out an opponent and risk getting tagged yourself. Floyd is happy with UD.
     
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  11. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wasn't close to getting stopped against Berto. If Mayweather does a Gatti on him he might consider quitting again but FMJ won't stop him clean.
     
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  12. PH|LLA

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    Marquez and Mosley are both HOF/ATG fighters who have faced other HOF/ATG fighters and have spent years among the elite of the sport. Neither has ever been stopped in their entire career even facing very high level opposition.

    Ortiz is not a HOF level fighter, has never faced a HOF level fighter, has only been 12 rounds once, and has already been stopped by Marcos Maidana.

    It's a different story.
     
    PH|LLA, Aug 14, 2011
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  13. haworths623

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    Its possible he eventually breaks him down till he can't see out of his eyes but I think the only weakness Floyd have is his lack of power (although the power he does have is slightly underated as he doesn't seem to go for the KO when he's clearly in charge- see Mosley and Marquez fights).
     
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  14. PH|LLA

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    Mayweather wanted to stop Marquez but if he opened up more it would just have given openings to Marquez and made the fight closer. If you watch the final rounds of that fight you'll see Marquez was nowhere near being stopped.

    anyways that's not the point. Ortiz is not Marquez. Much easier to hit, less experience, less toughness, and way less skilled.
     
    PH|LLA, Aug 14, 2011
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  15. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep thats the issue. Mayweather is strictly safety first fighter at this stage of his career. Why risk getting hit at the age of 34 when you can win by UD comfortably

    ^^Thats Mayweathers mindset. I agree that Ortiz and Marquez are completely different, but i dont think Mayweather will change his mindset
     
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