Mayweather has nothing to PROVE!!!

great post..you saved me the trouble of having to respond to this clown

 

Fact is PBF did not fight the elite of the welterweight division.
Fact is Mosley,Cotto, maragarito, Williams are the elite of the Welterweight division.
Fact is PBF could fight them now if he wants to but he does not want to. The excuses mentioned "too risky fihghts" and "PBF has nothing to prove are ridcoulous for objective observers.

Emanuel Steward and Doug Fischer stated PBF is not an ATG. IMO arguments can be provided that he is TOP 100 but he is certainly not TOP50, partially because his competition is not that strong compared to the other ATG and because he never fought the elite of the welterweight division and spent many years fighting weak competition (Brusels, Ndou..) and because his career has no longivity right now.

- I do not doubt doubt his accomplishments and his ablility to fight, but it is just not enough.
You got to consider that PBF fought in a weaker area than the other ATG and that the alphabetic titles do not mean as much as back in the day.

 

Then again, who the fk are you?
Probably some 17 year old immature PBF fan who admires his idol's childish acting.Go back to your moma.

 

He doesn't need to prove anything because he's already made a ton of money. Thats probably the reason the motivation to prove himself is out the window.

 

And you can't make ton of money fighting scrubs like some ******s like to claim.

 

Your facts are just coming straight out of your pocket and based on opinion. You have absolute zero facts to back these claims up apart from personal opinion and your personal opinion means nothing when it comes to general debate and judgment because you're clearly judging based on heart and possible hate.

Where did Steward say Mayweather is not an ATG?, please show me. I can also list you a long list of people that do consider Mayweather an ATG, of course you won't pay attention to those(because you disagree with them) but will handpick that ones that do agree with you. As far as I know, Fischer is a Margarito nutlicker and has been for a long time, I would like to see what Fischer has to say about the recent one-sided destruction by a way past prime Mosley. However, Steward's comments mean a lot to me so I would like a link confirming this.

By the way, just incase you have zero information and knowledge of Mayweather and his fights, his WW resume isn't the only resume he has, there are fights in FOUR different weight classes too. Something the likes of Cotto and Margarito tried to do, in very few weight division and ended up on the canvas, with Margarito losing a whopping SIX times.

Those aren't guys that you become ATG for beating. You were also one of others to mention Margarito as some sort of ATG(LOL) that Mayweather NEEDS to beat, how come he was replaced with Mosley nowi n your ******ed post?

If Mosley loses to whoever then it's Mayweather's fault and he needs to beat that person to confirm ATG status and when he does he only beat an overrated bum...etc

Save it please, your claims are failing like the fighters you are desperate enough to mention.

 

to say that is bull****,hes a hell of a fighter but he HAS got stuff to prove.

 

It is funny how the PBF fan club can't deal with the facts.

- Do you serously deny that Mayweather could fight the elite of the welterweight division if he wanted to? Now it is getting ridicoulous, I am pretty sure the money would be there and HBO would push the fight. Everybody wants PBF anyway because it is the most money to make. There are 4 good welterweights out there (Cotto, Mosley, Williams; Margarito).The reason why those fights are not happening is because PBF is retired, end of story.

- You doubt those facts and further gives the impression that your post are for some reason I ignore more credible than mine. As a far as I am concerned you are a PBF fan.

- I never said anything like that about Margarito. You must have confused me with another person

- Steward stated it on a few occasions, one was during the DH-PBF Broadcast.Nevertheless, IMO Doug Fischer is very credible too. However I think that arguments could be provided to rate PBF TOP 100 ATG but that is it.

 

holy.. you still got some hair on your teeth... and you might want to erase that slogan on your ass saying "floyd moneymay was here"

 

Your opinion isn't a fact, it's just your opinion, quit trying to make it sound like facts because it's not.

No I'm not confusing you with another person, the laughable posts that you made about how Mayweather SHOULD fight Margarito were all over and my discussion with you was also laughable yet short lived as you hardly came up with anything worth arguing over or anything to prove your point.

The real fact is this, Mayweather in retirement has nothing left to prove ANYWAY, he has done far more than all those "elites" you will mention combined. The only names worth mentioning are two, Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. Even though Mosley is way past his prime, Manny Pacquiao is the name to look forward to.

As I said, Doug Fischer is nothing but a Margarito ball licker and we know where Margarito ball lickers came from and now crawling back to their holes. It's Mayweather, that's how Margarito started to be heard, by using Mayweather's name and then "Most feared beast" and all has slowly been proven completely bull**** till last Saturday night everything there quickly drowned and for good.

If you want to be taken serious with your discussion I suggest you quickly remove Cotto from that list, just a friendly advice.

 

- You must be the first the one to seriously argue that PBF could not fight the elite welterweights if he would like to come back. It is all about money and HBO so no problem at all. Again the elite are welterweights are Cotto, Margarito, Mosley and Williams.

- A win over any of these four adds to the legacy of PBF. Especially if he beats more than one. I am very surprised that you deny that.Yes, PBF has certainly more credentials than 3 of them (Williams, Cotto, Maragrio), but of course a victory would add to his legacy.

- I have never stated in posts that PBF should fight Maragarito.

- Doug Fischer is a respectable journalist.

 

PBF has some truly great skills there's no doubt about that. Trouble is whereas Sugar Ray, Duran etc all had ATG's to challenge themselves against in there primes he don't have that option. RJJ had Hopkins and maybe Toney if you class him as an ATG. DLH is the only ATG on PBF's resume and he was past it.

I think the trouble some boxing fans have is that they can't see past the arrogant personality he has adopted. When you start telling SRL you would have beaten him back in the day, that's not being confident that's being a cocky *****. It's stuff like that, that stops boxing fans appreciating the skills he shows in the ring and starts them hoping he gets KTFO.

 

Well, it seems like most people here agree that PBF still has a lot to prove,

 

Ok let the "0" be overrated-:thumbsup In most boxing lists Floyd is top 50 ATG...The only belts he collected were the WBC and the IBF which was vacant cuz baldomir didn't wanna pay the sanctioning fee for it when he beat Zab...Zab fought Floyd for that belt and floyd almost immideatley gave the belt up...You say he did'nt fight the best at 147..who were you referring to??? Carlos Baldomir was the Ring champ and lineal champ...Margarito turned out to be just a hype that Mosley exposed...Cotto hadn't moved up from 140 yet...Williams was on the undercard of the Mayweather-Baldomir fight and wasn't really known...

Top 100 borderline?? You must not know much about Floyd's career...:bart

 

Than why do most boxing analysts, ESPN, fans have him top 50???:think