Mayweather: "I Respect Mosley Because He Stood Up Like A Man And Agreed To Be Tested"

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  1. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Remember this interview .Floyd: "Philippines has the best performance enhancement drugs"
     
  2. ???

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    EPO works by elevating the percentage of red blood cells (hematocrit), which gives the user a performance advantage (endurance). Consequently, the user would need to have the elevated levels during the fight in order to experience the benefits. If the levels were elevated during the fight, he would be caught by the post-fight blood sample. If Manny used EPO during the 24 day window but was back to a normal red blood cell count during the fight, there would be no performance benefit.


    EPO can be detected in urine but reportedly clears the system fairly quickly. In the absence of unlimited random urine testing, there would be a 24 day window to use EPO between the scheduled blood tests. A problem with EPO in this scenario is that it works for several weeks after injection. This doesn't give any wiggle room to test clean post-fight. But there would be no point in using EPO if the hematocrit was back to normal by fight time anyway.
     
  3. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    phony floyd. now he has to back this up for good. people see right through you pos.
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Hard to be caught if the testing Pac wants is only urine essentially.
     
  5. ???

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    Again, EPO shows up in urine. The effects of EPO use would be obvious in a post-fight blood sample.

    Pac is open to unlimited random urine testing along with the blood testing with 24 day cutoff. Take his **** every single day--multiple times if you want. Nobody using any known PEDs would have agreed to the combination of testing Pac accepted.

    What's the point in debating this when you've said you don't think he's on anything anyway?
     
  6. Trixie

    Trixie Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed and agreed. Manny should take the tests. He should stand and deliver. But if for whatever reason he doesn't then I'm just not ready to assume that means beyond a doubt he is a cheat. Am I suspicious of him? Sure. But I think to immediately call him a cheat is just the kind of irresponsible, cavalier rhetoric that got us here in the first place.
     
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    What Roach should do is ask Manny to give a blood sample now (while he's in shape, but still far enough away from fight night), and hopefully prove to him that he won't feel any adverse effects now that he's not draining.
     
  8. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac said pac was on roids by running from a test with his tails between his legs
     
  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    As I have said before, Pac wants the NSAC to do the testing, we have no idea what type of blood test they would use or what they would test for.

    We do know that they DO NOT test for EPO in their urine test.
     
  10. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No innocent man refuses to take a test. Sure, it was his ego stepping in the way and didn't want to give in to Floyd's demands. That's the biggest crock of **** I've ever heard.
    Think about it. Either give into the demands to clear you name and assure the world you're clean, clearing your rep, or walk away yet your rep is totally tarnished and will forever have fans wondering what the deal is. No innocent man would allow their rep to be in question. Only a guilty man would take the latter route and make such ridiculous excuses up. And the best " I don't know what a steroid even is." -- Pac aka guilty as fuk
     
  11. Trixie

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    This is just the garbage I'm talking about.

    You obviously don't understand anything other than the surface details. Because of the smear campaign there is only one thing that Pacquiao can do to clear his rep. And agreeing to take the tests is not enough.

    Think about what Pacquiao is being accused of here: using PEDs to secure devestating wins over DLH, Diaz, Hatton and Cotto. Agreeing to take a test for a fight with Mayweather, Passing the test and then losing the fight does absolutely nothing to dispel this. Nothing. His reputation is still blown to pieces. The same people calling him guilty now will say of course he lost; he didn't have his steroids this time.

    Because of the situation that Team Mayweather have contrived, the only way that he can clear his rep is by taking the test, passing it, AND beating Mayweather. You are getting mad at him because he isn't willing to roll the dice on that gamble in a fight above his natural weight against a guy who is favored to beat him by nearly all boxing experts? Gimme a ****ing break.
     
  12. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Blah blah.. it doesn't matter. Fact is Pac wouldn't take the test. Mosley is, any other fighter who was innocent would. I don't even like Floyd but I see this clear as fuk. End of story.
     
  13. Trixie

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    Why doesn't it matter? Because it doesn't agree with what you're saying? Why bother coming on to this board and enter into discussions if you already know everything?

    Very true. In fact so true, that this is the only fact you have in your entire argument.

    = Pac is definitely guilty? Really? That's how your logic works?

    I don't even like Pacquiao but I see this clear as fuk. End of story.

    What does that do to enhance either of our arguments? Answer? Nothing.
     
  14. dodong

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    Solid post. :good

    .... and if he does win and also pass any test that's asked of him, there's also no guarantee that he won't be accused of taking a designer/unknown PED which can't be detected anyway.
     
  15. Trixie

    Trixie Active Member Full Member

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    I hadn't even thought about that. Very true. :good