Mayweather: I'm better than Ali

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BG91, Nov 23, 2007.


  1. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, what? We should just disregard and forget about fighters after they've been out of the game for 30 years?
     
  2. BigReg

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    Mayweather came out of retirement for one reason, the fans. He came back to give the fans another superfight. He's a true p4p fighter. With this fight he'll have faced the best WW,JMW, and JWW in succesion. This man gives you guys blood sweat and tears, and it still isn't good enough. While other guys are fighting has beens and setups; being undisciplined and getting fat between fights, Floyd stays dedicated and fights champions. That's ok, if you're not a fan, you will be come Dec. 9th. :good
     
  3. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  4. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh, so in other words, he's trying to pull the wool over our eyes the same way Ali did.

    Self-proclamation will do it ever time.:yep
     
  5. DatBo215

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    You cant be serious. Floyd only claimed to be retired so that he can cherry pick his fights. He hasn't fought the best WW. Your stupid if you take that dumbass ranking of Baldo serious. he was a no name journeyman before he fought Judah and is a no name fighter now. Margarito was widely considered the best WW at that time.

    The best, or second best, is cotto right now and he hasn't fought him and probably wont. Also you cant claim him fighting hatton as fighting the best anything because at WW hatton would be luckly to be in the top ten. Hatton got a gift from Callozo and wouldn't stand a chance against the other top WW. Also all that **** about DHL being the best anything, he was inactive for a while before the fight on top of being old. All this support for Floyd's ridiculous statements is outrageous.

    When people look back at this era in boxing they will see the WW division in this era of boxing and floyd would have faught non of the divisions top fighters. floyd would sooner fight DHL again than take a risk against cotto. Please dont be surprised when he announces his official retirement after running away from hatton for 12 rounds to win a decision just so he doesn't have to fight cotto.
     
  6. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    thats just it...floyd isnt even a natural welter and can't even be considered a true welter because like you said hasn't faced the best at welter. but if you look back on his whole career and accomplishments it is very very good.
     
  7. BigReg

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    You know what, I'm sick and tired of you people. Floyd came up to WW and immediately challenged the undisputed champ. Unfortunately, Zab got beat by Baldo. Floyd then beat Baldo, and you guys still arent't happy. Go look at the threads about Margo fighting Cotto. You'll see a bunch of Cotto fans saying Margo is a bum and doesn't deserve a title shot. Meanwhile, he's alll of sudden a beast when people talk about him fighting Floyd. He was nothing but a bull**** ass WBO paper champ. Baldo was the real champ.

    I can't wait till Floyd wipes the floor with Hatton. Afterwards, hopefully Cotto and Arum are brave enough to answer the challenge. Cotto is a two time paper champ, he beat an old ass Mosely who looked like garbage against Collazo. Mosely is slower, and his jab and defense are ****. Cotto was lucky to walk away with a win. People act like Cotto is ****in Marvin Hagler despite beating a bunch of setups. He'll get his ass kicked against Mayweahter and all you haters will have no choice but to recognize the man for the great fighter that he is.
     
  8. DatBo215

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    Based on what beating castillo and corrales, is that it?? I mean dont get me wrong floyd is one the most physically gifted fighters ever but that does nothing in terms of ranking his greatness. You have to fight and beat great fighters in order to be considered a great fighter. Since moving to 140 about four years ago Floyd has done next to nothing. He beat a good Judah but thats it.
     
  9. JETSKI

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    Should PBF beat Hatton & avoid a mega fight with Cotto, it will only prove without a doubt that he's not the greatest he proclaimes to be. He'll fight Cotto alright...for a $100 mil asking price & simply run all night like he'll attempt to do vs Hitman.
     
  10. DatBo215

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    Couldn't agree more.:good
     
  11. punchdynamo

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    It's ironic that you diss Cotto for fighting an "old ass" Mosely (who you think is a set-up), but make no mention of PBF fighting an equally, if not more, "old ass" DLH. That's not even mentioning that you're drawing parallels between Mosely and Baldo on top of that. I guess Baldo was suddenly a beast when he fought PBF and now he's back to being a journeyman.

    The man is a great fighter. He is not the greatest of all time that you think he is.
     
  12. igotJUIC3

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    well first off you have to put into to play the 5 or 6 tittles in different weight classes....come on even you got to say there aren't many who can do that starting at 130...name a recent and past fighter who can.

    secondly man he moved all the way up to 154 to fight an Oscar who yes is old but would walk through any other 130 pounder who tried that. Hell he walked through Mayorga right before floyd. Oscar is old but just any fighter can't beat him NO.:nono

    Here is what i am saying is he an ATG not yet needs Cotto,williams cintron winner and then one more tough one after that maybe Margo or summin but what else can he do....i mean its only really three fights he can have at welter that it seems you guys are thirsty for...Cotto, Williams/Contron, then i guess Margo....but out of them the ONLY person deserving is Cotto....Cotto, Hatton, nor anyone else at Welter right now could move up in weight classes and be effective one because in order for them to be effective they NEED there power to stay with them and as you move up you lose it so they will not be able to move up in weight. Floyd can because his skillset is second to none.

    Of this Era...floyd has done more than all of them...has he faced lots of ATG's no but from 130 - 154 how many ATG's are there possibly?
     
  13. EpsilonAxis

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    I was watching videos of Ali the other day...he really was a pretty funny guy. Even in being a dickhead, at least he was humorous...almost a cartoon character.

    Floyd is like Ali except not funny, and with a more conventional style.
     
  14. BigReg

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    Sorry, Mosely was 36 when Coto fought him, DLH was 34 when Floyd fought him. Also DLH was a champion, Mosely was not. Lastly, Floyd was going up in weight, was the much smaller man, and was, by far, receiving his biggest payday.

    Nowhere, did I mention any parallels bewteen Baldo and Mosely. The fact of the matter is, Baldo was not Floyd's first choice. Mosely was unavailable, and everyone bitched when he tried to fight Spinks. Everyone applauded him when he decided to fight Baldo. After the fight, Baldo became a bum. Baldo is not a great fighter, but he was Floyd's 3rd choice, and a legitimate champion.

    And when the hell did I say Floyd was the greatest of all time? I'm just sick of Cotto fans hyping up their paper champ and demeaning the accomplishments of a more talented, more accomplished fighter. I'm not saying Cotto is a bad fighter. He's certainly far from it, and a worthy opponent for Floyd. But let's not pretend he's accomplished anywhere near what Floyd has.
     
  15. Jazzo

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    This is good for Hatton.

    In more ways than one.