I think he is too. With all that shaking I don't think I could rate Ali higher than 3 or 4 in the current heavyweight scene if he came out of retirement.
People like you act like PBF is ****in Muhammed Ali despite beating a bunch of setups. :deal Since 135, PBF has done nothing but cherrypick his opponents. He has stated time and again that all he is interested in is the money. Just take a look at what his opponents at 140 up have gone on to achieve since PBF fought them, and try telling anyone he beat legit opponents :deal Corley - has lost 50% of his fights (3 from 6) Bruseles - 4 wins over absolute nobodies Gatti - shot when PBF fought him, has been KOd twice by journeymen since, pretty much time for him to retire (if he hasn't already) Mitchell - old, career potentially ended by Tszyu 2 fights prior, 1 win from 2 fights since PBF, another one who should retire Judah - mentally fragile, already had 2 losses on his resume that highlighted his weaknesses (both mental and physical) Baldomir - once in a lifetime stroke of luck in beating Judah, went on to stop Gatti lol: PBF's opponent 3 fights prior), and lose to Phillips, and scrape out a points win vs a nobody DLH - old, inactive, still only lost by SD - this fight was the epitome of Carnivale - a fighter claiming himself to be the best ever facing an old part-time boxer/part time promotor for big $$$, retiring afterwards claiming he had nothing left to prove. Hatton is the first legit opponent PBF has faced since Castillo in 2002 :deal
I don't recall anyone other than PBF nuthuggers applauding him for fighting Baldomir, especially when Margo was begging him for a fight :deal
Floyd's being floyd and trying to sell a fight. He's a very insecure guy and hides behind this conceited facade. Behind it all there's still a little boy whose daddy didn't hug him enough.
Lmao. I just laugh how you morons get riled up over anything Floyd says or does. He will go down as possibly in the top 10, I dont think he will be considered the greatest. However setup fights? Man you idiots really got it in for Floyd. 5 titles in 5 divisions. He beat the best fighters in 5 weight classes. Thats a very rare feat. Cotto has a poor defense, and I dont see him getting to floyd, he got a luck dec against Mosley, if mosley was 5 years younger he would have dominated him. Floyd on the other completely outclassed Oscar.
Floyd's an idiot. How do I know? Ironically, because he says he's "the smartest" fighter of all time as well. He's smarter than Vargas and Mayorga. That's about it. EDIT: And Mike Tyson, but I guess that one was so obvious that I figure it went without saying
I love Floyd, hes been a fighter I have looked up to for years & I have spent serious money collecting his fights, from debut to present day.(thats a side to me most brit posters dont realise exists!) However, SRR is the best of all time by a country mile IMO.
Lmao. You are gonna criticize floyd for fighting for title belts? Wow. More sillyness from dumbass floyd haters. His record and competition look alot better then 99% of the fighters fighting today. So are you saying Floyd shouldnt have fought Baldomir for the welterweight crown?
Your acting as if Muhammad Ali fought no one other than Frazier, Foreman, etc. Why don't you complain about his fight against Zora Folley, Richard Dunn, or Brian London? At some points in his career Ali was fighting almost every two months. Health standards now prevent that so everyone has to really weigh their options before commiting or wasting sometimes up to five months per fight. Other fighters have careers to and they don't sit around for other to pay the bills. Not everyone can get out of a contract or drop everything if a big fight comes. In Floyd's case HBO has to greenlight any opponent before a fight happens. They wernt just about to invest in a PPV pitting Floyd against Margarito whose Top Rank PPV had just sold a massive 12,000 buys. It doesnt really matter what happened to Corley after Floyd fought him. Considering that Corley lost his title one fight prior and it was Floyd's first fight at 140 I hardly see how that can be considered cowardly. Prior to 2005 Floyd wasnt even in a position to dictate any of this. He had no more power at the negotiating table and HBO than someone like Joan Guzman does now. The bout against Bruseles was a title eliminator so he had no control over who the sanctioning body deemed worthy. On top of that Bruseles at the time was Miguel Cotto's chief sparring partner and was sent forward to gauge how Cotto might do. Jim Lampley and I believe George Foreman spoke about all of it during the fight itself. Now shortly before this fight Tszyu remarked in the post fight interview after beating Mitchell that he wanted a big pay per view fight with Arturo Gatti. I'm not making that up, go watch the video. So if you ever want to accuse Floyd of chasing a money fight you might also want to accuse Kostya of the same. Before that could come to reality Tszyu was presented a tremendous amount of money by Frank Warren to defend his title in England against Hatton. If you seriously believe Tszyu wanted to defend his title in the contenders home country at 2 A.M. then your so far gone that nobody can help you. Now who better to fight and take the title from than the person Tszyu wanted while picking making major bank/building a PPV following? This would've culminated in a fight that many many people we're dying to see before 2005 finished that was Tszyu-Mayweather. During all the press before Gatti fight Floyd was frequently giving a lot of respect to Tszyu and saying things like "I think I have a good chance of beating him, it would be a great fight, hes a great champion," rather than his usual remarks toward fighters. Anyone with a brain would choose to fight Gatti for a belt that Tszyu wanted on PPV in a garunteed sell out in Atlantic City rather than fight Vivian Harris. Unfortunately Tszyu didn't make it through his defense and for the remainder of the year team Hatton publicly stated A.) they needed more fights before Floyd and B.) they wanted to get Ricky known in the U.S.. Apparently according to some on this board he avoided Tszyu and Ricky even though Tszyu lost to Hatton the same month Floyd beat Gatti. Why would Floyd wait around for Hatton while he was unifying his belts against the least credible junior welterweight belt holder in Carlos Maussa? So he moves to welter and the buzz started moving on Judah-Mayweather over the internet via boxingtalk. His first fight at the weight is against a slick southpaw, something the linear champion was also....hmmmm, doesn't take much does it? Mitchell wasnt exactly a pushover considering he was the top dog at 140 a single year prior before losing to Tszyu. Once again, Judah falls through in his mandatory defense prior to the already signed contract to defend against Mayweather. Now instead of immediately making a fight with the completely unknown Carlos Baldomir which would have done pretty miserably they take the more marketable fight in Judah. That fight by the way sold out the Thomas and Mack Center as well as achieving over 350k PPV buys. In the mean time HBO puts Baldomir in with Gatti to get his name out there. He proved if anything his tremendous heart and durability against Forrest. No matter how you slice it regardless of Judah's intelligance he has gotten results from some of the best fighters in the world. If Zab had been fighting anyone other than Mayweather or Cotto on those respective nights he would surely have knocked them out pretty quickly. Gaining the linear welterweight title from Baldomir was instrumental in gaining a fight with De La Hoya. Who on earth would turn down that oppurtunity? Oscar benefited much more from his experiance than anything else. Especially how his body has matured so he could actually attempt to pressure Floyd. What would have a younger Oscar have done? Got frustrated and threw his classic flurries at air faster? If he was able to only lose a SD to the universally recognized p4p #1 fighter than he must not be to old.