Mayweather is incredible.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, May 2, 2010.


  1. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Lol how are you Beouche. I wouldn't go that far..
     
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  2. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Yes, floyd right can land and probable stop him, anybody can be stopped. But I disagree that Loma can't outbox Floyd, I actually envision that's exactly what Loma might do.
    Hear me out. Floyd strength is from the outside, where his longer reach and super quick draw and counter always make his opponents hesitate.
    If this is the geography where the fight take place, yes, Loma will have a hard time.
    Floyd inside game is also good where he roll and protect his body with forearm and elbow.
    But it might not work with Loma, who is a southpaw and can pivot to the back of his opponent.
    I actually feel that Loma offensive footwork is much better than Floyd, floyd has a great defensive footwork where if he is not rolling or tying his opponent, he can slip and slide out of harm.
    If Loma can dictate the distance and have the fight up close and keep turning Floyd, it might end up a little bit like Loma-Rigo.
    Big IF cause floyd is slightly longer and bigger but certainly not out of question.
     
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  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm talking prime for prime and pound for pound. Maidana was not as small as Pac and not as faded either. JMM at almost 40 years old did what he couldn't do 3 times in his prime. Just proves how far from his prime Pac was.

    Morales and JMM are both ATGs who Pac fought in their primes. Pac moved up in weight to fight Morales and lost by only two points despite a nasty cut caused by a headbutt. Then avenged the loss teice. That's a better result than scraping by Castillo in a fight most people thought was a robbery.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pac never even beat JMM clearly WTF are you talking about?
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fair post but I respectfully disagree. It might work for a round but PBF will figure that out and counter it. Not only that he's not some plodder who can't move. He can turn with Loma as well he's not going to get beat to the spot all night long against him.
     
  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    I'm alright buddy. How's you?

    Loma would skelp Mayweather even worse than I would. Even worse
     
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  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    And Floyd wouldn't have either had it not been for iv bags and weight undisclosed
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I could have sworn neither PBF or JMM failed any drug test.
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    JMM never beat Pac until JMM was old - and then he knocked him out cold. Why do you think that is? Why couldn't JMM do that in his prime? Pac was shot by then.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Uh, no. You could maybe attribute the loss to Pac being shot if JMM outpointed him over 12 (even more clearly than he did in the first three robberies, that is) - or if he scored a stoppage through accumulation of blows against which Pac was consistently less able to defend than he once had been.

    What you can't attribute to Pac being shot is picture-perfect timing on a one-shot KO scored when Pac was doing the same exact bunny hop inside that had been his calling-card for decades and well scouted by JMM over 36 previous rounds boxer together. Sorry.
     
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  11. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    So great at marketing some don't know it was Floyd himself who started the acronym TBE.
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He wasn't exactly secretive about it, the merchandising line (baseball caps, bags, water bottles) was launched coincident with (and probably the sole reason for) him coining it. :lol:
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :thumbsup:

    I can see it. If there's one bit of kryptonite out there for Floyd's peerless adaptability, it is the potent combination of RJJ level of athleticism with nearly Floyd-like ring IQ that Loma possesses. A pretty insane fantasy match to envision, I think far more interesting than most "Floyd vs. (insert ATG)" matchups looking backwards in time...
     
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  14. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    We think alike:)
    Lots of people pointing out the size, the fact that Loma early loss and that he can be touched and put down, and poo poo this mythical match up.
    But we are not comparing greatness here, at this point in time Floyd is far ahead and I don't know if Loma will/ can ever catch up. But in terms of match up at 130-135, it is interesting to see how it play out.
    Also Floyd gets stronger every time he move up and it actually takes him time to acclimate to the weight. He is not always the stronger guy first time around. Corralles imposed his size and made him stick and move, Castillo did the same by staying in front of him, likewise with Baldomir and Oscar.
    People make Floyd out as a monster at 130. He was excellent but I think his physicality over Loma is exaggerated at that weight.
     
  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Well scouted for 36 rounds yet he was never able to land anything even close to having the impact of that shot until the 42nd round when he was close to 40 years old. Please. Pac was no longer the same fighter and it's the only reason a past prime JMM was able to do what JMM couldn't do 3 times in his prime. It doesnt take Marquez 42 rounds to scout a fighter who supposedly does the same thing over and over again before he gets it right.

    Sorry.