Mayweather is not in the same league as Duran/Lenord,Hagler,Hearns

Brixton.... Regardless if he was backed in a corner, he still fought them. I'm not even a Floyd fan, but the hate he gets is just ridiculous. People say he ducked Margaritio, but if he had Margarito on his resume, his haters would claim that Margarito is slow and flat footed, that he was only good when he messed with his gloves/wraps. I loved Paul a Williams, but he is not an all time great. If Floyd beat him , it would do nothing in the eyes of his haters. People still bash him for not fighting a prime Mosely or Cotto. But Arum stopped the Cotto fight, and Mosely didn't want it with Floyd. In no way am I saying that he is the best ever, but he is definitely the best of recent times.

 

I wouldn't say that Floyd is not in their league, that is just speculation and impossible to prove anyway, but to me the difference is that the big 4 etc... came into to ring to literally try to kill you. They were in there to try to knock your head off your shoulders into the 3rd row, whereas Floyd is just trying to win rounds, run out the clock and win a decision.

 

LOL...don't forget Duran , Donald Curry and Benitez..!

Based on Castillo and Maidana's first fights I think even a smart pressure fighter like Carlos Palomino would throttle Floyd !!!

 

He is just as skilled. He absolutely wanted no part of prime Pac. That's like SRL and Duran avoiding themselves like the plague. Imagine Pac and Floyd fight for the first time six years ago. **** would have been a classic.

 

But he did want a part, he offered Pacquiao his highest payday, he literally offered him a fight for 40 million lol, yeah he was lowballing him but that's Mayweather, you make more fighting Pacquiao than Mayweather if you don't sell tickets already. Then people whine about Mayweather waiting for years after he'd already offered him a fight because he knew it would triple his own profit, yet they fail to point out that Pacquiao did EXACTLY THE SAME THING when he was 'prime' and declined Mayweather's offer to fight.

Again, who walked up to Manny and told him to stop lying to the public in the middle of an arena? Mayweather...

Mayweather has never been scared of any fighter, all you have to do is watch the guy fight and his whole psychology, he gives zero ****s about anybody in the ring, he has a lot of insecurity but it's nothing to do with his skills. I am not a Floyd or Manny fanboy, I'm literally neutral.

 

Not sure it's fair to take someone like Floyd and simply copy and paste him into the era of the Duran's and Leonard's and say, "Imagine how much ducking..." and so on. My logic behind that is that in order to achieve greatness he would have had to have had those big fights...times were different and he has been allowed to navigate his career this way. How well he would have done against the mentioned fighters is a different story, you can debate this all day it's too deep to simply dismiss with a simple sentence. In my opinion.

 

I think he's in their class but doesn't beat any of them head to head.

 

Floyd takes calculated risks his best two wins are vs past prime shadow of their prime selves fighters.

To say it's not Floyds fault he's old too isn't logical.
Nothing stopped floyd fighting a younger dlh or pac, well only the fear of actually losing.

Floyd fans are just fellow chip on shoulder black dudes that will say he's the best ever no matter what.

 

You are utterly clueless.

 

Too bad for you and other PBF haters the Ring Magazine doesn't agree with you. PBF was ranked 12th best fighter since WW2 ranking ahead of Hagler and Hearns and this was before he fought #48.:deal

 

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PBF's career in a nutshell. Before the fight he's scared and will never fight them when the fight is signed he cherry picked them after the fight gets no credit he ran and he's ducking someone else. PBF won't be fully appreciated until retires and even still it won't be until many years after that.

 

Hagler went to the uk and busted up Minter and got a hail of glass bottles thrown at him.Floyd wont even leave vegas mainly due to being allowed to have pain numbing injections before a fight.

 

Another pathetic excuse PBF only fought them because he was forced.:nut Yet he still wins. Hilarious, a guy that was supposed to be scared ends up tooling them both. Damn shame they both got beat by a guy who was sared of them.:rofl

 

You act as if Minter was some HOF fighter he wasn't great.

 

If he was in that generation he WOULD have taken those risks, be cause he would not stand above them to afford avoiding those risks.
He IS very talented, and he WOULD have won against a few of those fighters, but not all of them, and likely would have finished with a few losses on his record if he fought in that era.
Funny thing is a Mayweather jr. in that era with say a 46-3 record would be ranked higher as an ATG than the one trying for 49-0 we actually have now!
For real if he gets through that era with only 3 losses then he's right there, but by being head , and shoulders above the rest, and calling all the shots he has hurt his ATG status.
The win against Pac did help, but a fighter going for 100% legacy does not fight Berto when your a lap behind the other ATG WW, and MW greats.