You're clearly not on my level. I owned you and most here will agree. You said Hatton was tougher without any proof but when the two met in the ring. It was obvious that PBF was the tougher fighter not only by the outcome but by the way PBF did it. He beat Ricky at his own game on the inside where he likes to get down and dirty. You fail to admit this so therfore you have no credibility. It's obvious to anyone who saw the fight what happened and for you to continue on about how Ricky is tougher despite being beaten up on the inside proves two things. You're delusional and a troll.:hi:
Now you're the one who is exaggerating. You do know that Floyd has fought 38 times. Pointing out two fights doesn't do much to prove your point. The fact that he has 25 KOs shows that more often than not, he does stamp out his authority on a fight. Once again, look at that strectch from N'Dou on. There is only two fights in that stretch that Floyd wasn't sitting on his punches and didn't go for the KO. That's your opinion and I have no problem with that. However, you have no evidence to show that Floyd isn't tough. The evidence you did bring forth is weak at best.
For what:bart your claim that Floyd isn't a ATG is ridiculous. Better yet, come up with AT THE MOST 50 fighters better than him...this aught to be good.
Now you're the one who is exaggerating. You do know that Floyd has fought 38 times. Pointing out two fights doesn't do much to prove your point. The fact that he has 25 KOs shows that more often than not, he does stamp out his authority on a fight. Once again, look at that strectch from N'Dou on. There is only two fights in that stretch that Floyd wasn't sitting on his punches and didn't go for the KO. Quote: That's your opinion and I have no problem with that. However, you have no evidence to show that Floyd isn't tough. The evidence you did bring forth is weak at best. Not at the higher weight classes he does not. What ever son. He carried Bruseles for 2/3 rounds longer than he should of been in there and he did not exactly take it to Corley either did he. Mine is weak you cant even give me what i originally asked for evidence of this so called toughness. Your butt buddy thinks he is tougher than Gatti,Hatton, LAMO. Like i said he is a pro fighter so he must have a degree of toughness, but he dont have anything exceptional worth talking about like its one of his main qualites.
He's a hall of famer but his resume is far too weak to ever be considered a top 20 atg. I don't think any boxer can be considered an atg if they "avoid" certain boxers belts or challenges.
Huh look at his resume only two names that stick out are castillo and corrales. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
He beat the **** out of Bruseles. He battered him in pretty much every round and then stopped him with a body shot. That's pretty authoratative. Against Corley, he was very agressive. To suggest that he wasn't tells me you don't have a clue or that you didn't watch that fight. Because Mayweather was clearly going for the KO in that fight. I already gave you two examples. He fought Chavez with one hand(Clottey went into a shell and stopped fighting against Margo when he hurt his hand), and he fought Castillo with an injured shoulder and ribs. He brawled with N'Dou and Corely when he didn't have to and he stood his ground and beat up Hatton on the inside when they fought. Let's be real, Mayweather is sigficantly better than Gatto or Hatton. He doesn't have to show the toughness that they do because he's much more talented and doesn't need to eat 2 or 3 punches just to land one. However, to say that he isn't tough is without merit. He's never shown anything that would put his toughness into question. Toughness isn't his main quality, but that doesn't mean he isn't tough. When you're more talented than your opposition and you're beating them with ease, then you won't have a need to show off any toughness. Toughness is readily apparrent in the face of adveristy. Floyd hasn't face much adversity in his career. However, when he has faced it, he always rose to the occasion. That's toughness.
My statement is not ridicoulous at all. People are confusing ATG with HOF status all the time. Boxers like ODH, Joe Calzaghe are no sure lock ATG either. A debate could be made that they are not. They are borderline, just like Mayweather. It is subjective but IMO Mayweather does not belong to the best 100 boxer of ALL TIME. If he comes back and adds a couple years, he probably will be. But right now, he has not been around long enough to be considered ATG. He retired too young and his accomplishments are not great enough to make up for it.
He beat the **** out of Bruseles. He battered him in pretty much every round and then stopped him with a body shot. That's pretty authoratative. Against Corley, he was very agressive. To suggest that he wasn't tells me you don't have a clue or that you didn't watch that fight. Because Mayweather was clearly going for the KO in that fight. Quote: Mine is weak you cant even give me what i originally asked for evidence of this so called toughness. Your butt buddy thinks he is tougher than Gatti,Hatton, LAMO. I already gave you two examples. He fought Chavez with one hand(Clottey went into a shell and stopped fighting against Margo when he hurt his hand), and he fought Castillo with an injured shoulder and ribs. He brawled with N'Dou and Corely when he didn't have to and he stood his ground and beat up Hatton on the inside when they fought. Let's be real, Mayweather is sigficantly better than Gatto or Hatton. He doesn't have to show the toughness that they do because he's much more talented and doesn't need to eat 2 or 3 punches just to land one. However, to say that he isn't tough is without merit. He's never shown anything that would put his toughness into question. Quote: Like i said he is a pro fighter so he must have a degree of toughness, but he dont have anything exceptional worth talking about like its one of his main qualites. Toughness isn't his main quality, but that doesn't mean he isn't tough. When you're more talented than your opposition and you're beating them with ease, then you won't have a need to show off any toughness. Toughness is readily apparrent in the face of adveristy. Floyd hasn't face much adversity in his career. However, when he has faced it, he always rose to the occasion. That's toughness. He outboxed him decisively, but he was not exactly standing their and bang away at Bruseles trying to get him outta there once he got him under was he? If he was being so aggressive against Corley then why was the fight so boring to watch? Mayweather is more skilled than Clottey. Clottey is not capable of boxing one handed. do you honestly think he is tougher than Clottey too, jeez. He brawled with N'Douatsch he just counterd him same as he did to Bruseles . BTW N'dou is who again? I said he is not tougher than Gatti and Hatton dont twist what im saying. Ive already said Mayweather must have a degree of toughness, because he is a pro fighter, but his toughness is not one of his credentials worth pointing out, because i can give you lots of evidence of lesser fighters who have shown more toughness thoughout their career than Floyd.
No one is saying he's a top 20 ATG. What we are saying is that he is in fact an ATG. BTW I guess fighting from 130-154 is taking no challenges? You have a warped sense of reality.