`Mayweather is possibly the best of all time`

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bill Butcher, Sep 26, 2010.


  1. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    DEpends on your criteria for his. Could he have beaten any fighter at his weight ever, yes, no question.
    His skills and knowhow rivals anyone at any weight ever!
    He does need to fight the Cottos, Pacs, Margos etc, who by the way he'd beat them all easily, but he needs to remove the element of doubt.
    He needs to prove how great he is.
     
  2. Twirdman

    Twirdman Active Member Full Member

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    This kind of thinking is precisely why we have shitty cherrypicking boxers. Because idiots like you automatically think once a fighter has lost he becomes ****. And that's just pure crap. Why can't a fighter just meet a better man or have an off day. No its immediately he was a hypejob, exposed, his chin was cracked, or any of this other bull ****. Its why guys like Berto don't want to step up their game. Berto knows if he loses everything gets flushed down the toilet. Khan loses to Prescott and suddenly people start talking massive **** about how Malignaggi would KO him come on. Yeah he's been KOed and shaked a few times its part of fighting and it happens. Maybe he would go in there with tougher challenges but then there's that constant fear that if he loses again he'll have to start all over again. Thats not fair to them, fighters who challenge themselves lose. Robinson lost, Leonard lost, Ali lost, the list goes on. Except in some very rare cases any fighter who test himself enough will lose at some point. If he is truly good he'll dust himself off and keep fighting on. That's what Cotto did, Margo is doing, and any number of other fighters.
    I mean rather then immediately jumpin on the he's a failure express can we give a little credit to the guys who won these fights.
     
  3. Interceptor

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    Pac fans fear facts.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    nah, he's not good enough to be the best of all time. Hell he isn't even the best right now. IMO there is no possibility whatsoever that Floyd is the best of all time. That's just judging him from the fights that he's already had, not those that he should or shouldn't have had which really I can't speculate one way or the other.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure Oscar is a full-of-**** promoter who would like to have only lost a split decision to the GOAT and let his weight draining negate his lop-sided loss to lil' Manny altogether.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    wouldn't that be convenient.
     
  7. Interceptor

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    Manny only picks on guys that have been shattered.Dont blame that on me.

    Pac STAYS AWAY from a certain style.

    We ALL know there is a mexican style..

    We ALL know there is a european style..

    And we ALL know...even if you don't want to admit it...there is a Black American style..

    That style Manny has not proven himself against.:deal
     
  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Same old line from you I see :lol:.... you need to change your ****.

    Anyway... I dont agree with DLH, not by a long shot & Im suprised that he actually uttered those words tbh, I came across the vid on youtube so thought Id put it here in the off chance that nobody had seen it.


    `Botswana` :smoke
     
  9. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good thing oscar isn't pinocchio
     
  10. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did a promotor just say one of his fighters is the best eva ?

    no way

    Oscars his boss he says whatever

    Why does Floyd only fight in house fighters ?
     
  11. FORMIDABLE

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    Yeah Oscar would know about capitalizing on Manny's mistakes. He barely touched Manny and got pummelled into submission.

    The real key here is that against Floyd, Oscar showed workrate and aggression could be enough to beat Mayweather if you can keep it up for 12 rounds. Pac's like an energizer bunny on PEDs and the A-side meth and can easily do that.

    The De La Hoya that fought Floyd was flat footed and as Floyd fans liked to point out before the fight didn't move his head. Floyd only landed like 2-3 telling blows on him. Manny Pacquiao would offer far more speed and better movement and a more lethal and varied attack (definately less predictable than Oscar or Mosley could offer) for Floyd to be worried about.

    Pac has the stamina and the aptitude and discpline to follow a gameplan through an entire fight. You also have to take into consideration Floyd seems to have lost abit in his leg movement which will definately make it harder for him to avoid getting cut down by Pac. Pac on the other hand seems to be getting stronger as he's moved up and would have to have the edge.

    When you look at Pac's career, he's always been able to outlast his toughest opponents, even against his most difficult stylistic matchup. You can't say ever that about Oscar or Mosley, Floyd toughest opponents of late.

    Of course, styles make fights, and Floyd also has an impeccable record in his toughest fights. But If Floyd honestly knew within his heart he could whoop Pac, he would have taken the fight without hesitation and collected an easy 40-50mill since he is all about money. Instead he's come up with excuse after excuse not to fight him. Truth is he knows Manny is too hot for him right now.

    As for Floyd's GOAT claims? His resume is rather weak for him to be any where near such consideration at this point in time. And he shamelessly ducked the only prime elite ATG he could have faced in his career. That's a huge blow to his legacy. His only claim really, rests on his 41-0 record. In that case you might aswell throw Joe Calzaghe into the conversation. Floyd being the GOAt=a joke
     
  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Yeah, that's why I'm not at all shocked like Bill is that he made that comment. Because that's all it amounts to, to me.
     
  13. Interceptor

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    That was a tuneup after 2 years away.

    Look who Cotto fought as tuneups..

    Alphonso Gomez and Micheal Jennings..:rofl


    Look who Tony fought as tuneups..

    Shot LIGHTWEIGHTS Manuel Gomez and Golden Johnson..:rofl:rofl


    JMM >> Golden Johnson..Manuel Gomez..Alphonso Gomez...Micheal Jennings :hi:
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Scroll to the top of the screen & click on `lounge` or if you really want to be nice to me, click on `log out`

    Ps. take bam bam with you please, cheers pal :good
     
  15. Twirdman

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    Bull**** those are races not styles. By "Black American" style I'm guessing you mean a slick boxer. Saskuul was a slick fighter if I remember right so that right out. And you want to act like all Mexicans do is swarm when that's bull**** too. Barrera is good at more then just brawling. JMM is an amazing counter puncher. Morales is good at pure boxing. Don't try and say all he's fought is straight brawlers because that is utter bull****.