Mayweather is Still the P4P 1

wow, lame comeback...lol you could have seen boxing better if you're not blinded by floyds nuts....former champ..lol

 

those greats have losses too...but they aint no runners...:deal

 

atsch You really are a *** in every way. I guess you were born this way. You keep keep saying that Pacquiao has 3 loses and Mayweather has none. Mayweather is number. Where are you getting at? Eh, ***llege?

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:rofl

Yeep, Pac fought Hoya and Hatton after Floyd and beat the **** out of them. What's your point? You're once again emphasizing that Pacquiao has lost before? LMAO!:shock: Fact is, he KOd both of them. By hood and diehard boxing fans, you mean yourself right. Real boxing fans clearly accept that Pac is the current/reigning P4P. LMAO!

A *** is talking about reality! Wake up and smell the cofee ***llege, but don't drink it pour it all over your face! That way you'll be really awake.:rofl

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That's reality! Experts know and acknowledge Manny Pacquiao or if your wanna refer to him as Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao, as the number POUND FOR POUND KING.
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Pac fans are throwing facts about their fighter and ***LLEGE is just pretending to know something even though it knows nothing about boxing or reality!

Floyd beating Marquez at 147 doesn't prove ****! ***! Again, what's your point about Pacquiao losing before?? :nut

 

As much as i am a floyd fan....P4P is a what have you done for me lately ranking and Pac was still fighting...Floyd retired....i mean what was supposed to happen?

The better fighter Floyd easily..just my opinion...but circumstances are what they are and he retired and Pac contiued to whoop ass.

 

this conversation just goes to show just what little today's boxing fan knows about it. to even suggest that pacquiao is a better fighter and #1 p4p over mayweather jr. is simply preposterous. mayweather jr. is UNDEFEATED and with the exception of jose luis castillo, has never been tested. he's so much better and head and shoulders above pacquiao it's ridiculous. for one, he's never lost to a thai and pinoy midget by a body punch and by a jab. a friggin' JAB!!! secondly, he's won 5 legitimate division titles whereas pacquiao has won 4 and one of them, versus marquez was a bull**** decision and the other one was against the mighty david diaz. oh, not to mention pacquiao did beat an obscure thai for his first title and an obscure african for his second. just because pacquiao beat david diaz, a drained oscar and an overrated hatton doesn't make him the best fighter in the world. if head to head matchups are any indication, like marquez, who gave pacquiao hell and should have gotten the decision, pacquiao does not belong in the same ring as mayweather jr.

 

EXACTLY!!

As who is the better fighter. I haven't decided yet. Floyd's defensive skill is really impressive, but Manny's offense is also impressive. The only sure way for all the boxing fans to know who is the best is by making them fight each other. If Floyd wins, then kudos to him, same goes with Manny. :bbb

 

atsch:roll:
Oh is that you Nallege? :hi:

Laughable! I can counter your argument but I'm too lazy. :rofl For now I'll just laugh!:rofl

 

At the same time 2 of the fighters that Pacman defeated to become p4p were already defeated by PBF.

Pacman can have the pfp title right now though its not an issue. If he beats Cotto he can maintain his p4p status. If he loses, he loses his pfp status. PBF has more achivements, is more gifted physically then Pacman, and is a more skilled boxer then Pacman. So logic dictates that PBF is better then Pacman on paper. Also stylistically PBF is Pacman's worse nightmare. So logically PBF is flat out better then Pacman. To say that Pacman is better then PBF would not be based on logic but based on being a fan or hope.

 

definitely agree to what your saying as well but to Pac's credit no matter how you belittle his accomplishments he still has done a lot also...and just as you have broke his down...believe people can do the same to Floyds.....i mean the two fighters are very debatable in a lot...only thing prolly non debatable is who is the more complete fighter and thats Floyd hands down.

 

Hmm... I agree with the part that I bolded, but counting Pacquiao out is a mistake. He has proved his critics wrong along time ago. Since he fought Ledwahba until he fought Hatton.

In terms of accomplishment, I'm gonna take Pacquiao's side not because I'm his fan. Pacquiao is the only(correct me if I'm wrong) boxer today and in the history of boxing to have become lineal champion in 4 different divisions. He became a champion in 6 different divisions. Do you know any 106 who because successfull pass 122-126? Physically? Have you seen Pacquiao's body? You shouldn't underrate Pacquiao. :bbbYou can't deny that Pacquiao is one of the elites today.

 

There is no speed disadvantage. Pacquaio is faster than Mayweather.
The proof:
When De La Hoya threw in the towel they said 'there's no point continuing, he's JUST TOO FAST'

When Floyd Sr was asked who was faster Pac or Mayweather Jr, he completely ignored the question. He knew Pac was faster.

MAyweather has amazing skills and natural talent but he is not faster than PAc that's for sure.

 

BUMP!

Again, a friendly reminder to all.

BTW, it's Floyd that has some kind of agreement with Golden Boy Promotions (owner of The Ring Mgazine), not Manny (is with Top Rank, Arum's promo co.) Get your facts straight!

 

I am not belittling Pacman's accomplishments at all. He has his own set of accomplishments, I feel PBF has more since he fought more championships, fought more championship fights, is undefeated etc.. This doesn't mean that Pacman doesn't have quality accomplishments himself.

Sure Pacman may have shocked the world before, but he has never faced anyone like PBF either. I don't think there is anyone Pacman has faced that PBF couldn't beat at any weight. Morales, Barrera, JMM, just don't compare to PBF. Again im not saying that beating those guys are not an accomplishment. But I don't think you can say because he shocked the world by going up in weight to beat Morales, Barrera, JMM or DLH he should be EXPECTED to do the same to PBF especially since he has beatin DLH and outclassed JMM. himself.