Mayweather is the P4P King

i think there are already a few of these threads, with polls, fwiw

 

I guess it depends on how one measures pfp rankings. Is it based upon a boxer's entire career? What if a boxer who was retired in the past 5 years decides to make a comeback, and beats a top opponent. Should that one fight alone reinstate his previous status as a top pfp boxer? The reason why I bring this up is because Floyd has only fought once a year for the pass 3 years. His quality has been high, although one could argue that SSM was pass prime, and that Marquez was a small fighter moving up 2 weight classes and also pass prime. But more importantly, the quantity is lacking. Isn't pfp rankings base upon a boxer's recent performances which takes into account quality and quantity?

 

The Pound for Pound Crown is a 'what have you done for me lately' award.

Otherwise Ali could come out of retirement and be number 1.

The fact is Pacquaio has done more lately. He completely dominated Cotto who beat Mosely. And he destroyed all of Mayweathers best wins more convincingly than Mayweather.

When the excitement of this win calms down people will see it as it is. Pac is P4P number 1.

AND if we ARE taking past achievements into account Pacquiao has already had his 'Golden age' when he was fighting HOFs Barrera, Morales etc. Mayweather has coasted for the last few years, beat a 38years old Mosley who hadn't fought in 15 months. Let's get some perspective here.

 

I'll use a rough mathematical model as to how I would describe pfp ratings.

Each opponent gets a quality rating of 1 - 5 with 5 being the highest. For example, I would rate Mosley as a 4. A few years ago, Mosley was a 5, but age and ring rust has diminished his speed, stamina, and skills. Likewise, I would rate Clottey as a 4. He was a top 5 welterweight and in his prime when he fought Pacquiao. Now if you disagree with these exact numeric ratings that's fine, but more importantly I want to describe how pfp ratings can be mathematically described.

Now apply a multiplier to each opponent's rating. For example, if the opponent was fought in the pass 1 year (12 months or calendar year), then the multiplier is 1.0

If the opponent was fought around 2 years ago, then the multiplier is 0.8

If the opponent was fought around 3 years ago, then the multipler is 0.6

...and so forth and so on...

So since Mosley's rating was a 4, and Floyd fought him within the pass 1 year, then Floyd should get 4 x 1.0 = 4.0 points for it.

Last year, Floyd fought Marquez. Suppose, Marquez is rated as a 4. Since that was last year, then Floyd gets 4 x 0.8 = 3.2 points for that fight.

Floyd fought Ricky Hatton 3 years ago. Again, let's say Hatton is rated as a 4. Then, 4 x 0.6 = 2.4 points.

You can continue this through all of Floyd's fights throughout his entire career. Then add up all his points, and that should give you a rough estimate of his pfp rating. Notice as time passes, an opponent's multiplier becomes smaller which takes into account the recentcy of a fight in determining pfp ratings.

Again, this is a rough mathematical model. The 1.0, 0.8, 0.6,... multipliers are rough estimates.

This model also takes into account the number of fights a boxer fights especially the number of fights he has fought recently. The more fights a boxer fights, and especially if he fought recently, the more points he will be awarded toward the pfp ratings. This is the quantity aspect that I've been discussing about.

 

In regards to the above mathematical model that I described above, you add up all the points for Floyd and Pacquiao (or any other fighter), and compare who has the higher point total.

 

anyone who says pac is ranked ahead of mayweather is a ******

 

its your equation and you cant be ****ed to add it up-

i ll just use common sense. right now- they share the p4p 1 spot.

 

p4p list are all bias none really mean ****.. is all about promotion to get fans worked up... back in the day nobody talked about these so called p4p lists

:hat

 

I put mayweather at number 1, but just barely, and the only reason is because manny would have never been p4p#1 if floyd didnt retire earlier...

It's not as if mayweather was ever dethroned....and since he has comeback he beat marquez and mosley both ranked p4p# 2/3 coming off sensational KO's of their own against world class opposition....Mayweather gets a slight edge over pacquiao imo....However, pacquiao can easily make the case to be number 1....

P4P lists are all up to eye of the beholder, there is no uniformed standard...

 

Mayweather.
Khan.
Pac.

 

I have Pac above May at this point soley based on activity.

If Mayweather fights another good welterweight or any boxer that is in their best weightclass, this year, and May dominates like he usually does I think I will have no choice but to put him above pac, that is until pac fights his next opponent.

But honestly I'm to the point, that well im so confused on who to put at #1 that whenever I see pac or may's current fight now. I want to put whoever just fought at #1. I dont think anyone is stupid if they have pac or may at #1, I respect your decision, I'm just still on the fence.

Before saturday pac was my #1 p4p, and still is right now, but May was just so dominant its awe inspiring to watch him (I know watching live you get a little more caught up in it, so im trying to not let that effect my decision) that I feel I must re-evalutate. Cause, well I guess Mayweather "puts people to sleep" but not for me, I do respect his outstanding boxing ability and find it entersting just how good he is. Most everyone knows I hate his "24/7" attitude, but did you guys see his post fight interview in the ring? Completely different Mayweather.

GOD DAMNIT MAKE PACQUAIO VS MAYWEATHER HAPPEN ALREADY!!!!!!!!

 

Manny still No 1

and the latest news: Manny has agreed to the 14 day cut-off, and even more so, agreed to testing so long as it's not the day before.

Now it's time for floyd to MAN up lmao.